New manager

[marcoloco]

Drogheda win their play off 3-1 to cap off a fine week.

Is Kevin Doherty a possibility given the fine work he's done at Drogheda?

That's one way of dealing with your so called bogey team.

[davybhoy]

Personally I think Doherty would do a decent job if given the budget that Higgins had. Put it this way you can guarantee every player would be giving 100pc as he'd take no bullshit. Would he relocate from Dublin and with Drogheda meant to be going full time plus Europe would be even want the Derry job

[dcfc_jp_1989]

Should we try & be a wee bit ambitious with our next appointment and look outside the LOI & IL?

3 years ago Shels who had just been promoted, with no Europe & a significantly lesser budget than us went & asked Damien Duff if he wanted to be their manager yes I know he was working with their u15s at the time so was probably a bit easier for them to convince him even though he said no at first.

Is it worth asking someone like John O'Shea the question to see if he is interested? Other managers mentioned on previous threads that are currently out of work are Mark Kennedy (applied for Dundalk after O'Donnell left) & Brian Barry-Murphy. Do we explore that route before settling on an option within the LOI or IL, which imo aside from Duff, Kenny or Bradley is either a sideways or backwards step

[Nige92]

Very fair JP. The last time around Higgins represented a forward thinking appointment. Will the board go again or go more conservative? People tend to go in the opposite direction

[Greengo]

John O'Shea was also seen at the final but that means nothing...

He would be a great appointment though as he is a big name in Irish football and beyond... He would attract decent players and probably has loads of contacts with scouts etc... If named I think we would have no problem selling out our season tickets for next season as people would be excited by the fact that an Irish footballing legend from Waterford would be leading us on a different path forward...

I think even he thought the ROI job was a bit too much so a LOI team would be perfect to cut his teeth with although if successful here he wont stay too long and would probably accept a bigger wage in England or Scotland... But he has to be successful first

[marcoloco]

Very fair JP. The last time around Higgins represented a forward thinking appointment. Will the board go again or go more conservative? People tend to go in the opposite direction

Higgins and Rennnie were both big, exciting captures for the club.

Rennie came with bags of experience and U21 contacts. RH was an exciting prospect working closely with SK at both Dundalk and on the international stage.

Then we lost Rennie and replaced him with PMcL and then Hegarty...

If you ask he that's when the wheels came off (when Rennie departed) and it has been a slow decline since. The rest is history.

We need to get back to making good decisions not lazy ones.

[marcoloco]

John O'Shea was also seen at the final but that means nothing...

He would be a great appointment though as he is a big name in Irish football and beyond... He would attract decent players and probably has loads of contacts with scouts etc... If named I think we would have no problem selling out our season tickets for next season as people would be excited by the fact that an Irish footballing legend from Waterford would be leading us on a different path forward...

I think even he thought the ROI job was a bit too much so a LOI team would be perfect to cut his teeth with although if successful here he wont stay too long and would probably accept a bigger wage in England or Scotland... But he has to be successful first

I personally think he would look at it us as a big risk. He's well in at the FAI and if he bides his time could get the reins when the current incumbent moves on. Taking the reins at Derry could give him great experience but if he doesn't manage to make us competitive he could risk his wider reputation. Would I like him - of course I would, do i think he'd risk his reputation at Derry... im not too sure he would.

[dcfc_jp_1989]

Considering that the chairman has stated on numerous occasions that his ambition is to see how us competing in the European group stages I think they have to & will go again with a forward thinking appointment. The FAI Cup winners in 2025 are likely to get a Europa League spot rather than a Conference League & possibly makes that ambition a wee bit easier outside of winning the league.

O'Shea being at the final is probably just a coincidence he was also at the semi-final with Halgrimsson who may look at bringing in his own backroom team now he's got his feet under the table. If we did appoint him, as Greengo said it will put bums on seats to begin with & if he gets success it gets more bums on seats. Being successful with a man like him at the helm you run the risk of him going off to England but what it also does it potentially makes Derry City a more attractive proposition than we are now.

I just thinking boxing ourselves into candidates in Ireland (North & South) is a lazy mindset & we should be at least looking or thinking outside the box

[Andy Bernard]

Damien Duff has the personality to inspire his players. I don't think that is true of John O'Shea. We've appointed far too many managers who have never previously proven themselves as managers already. Can anyone tell me what John O'Shea's tactical approach is and how he sets his teams up?

[marcoloco]

Damien Duff has the personality to inspire his players. I don't think that is true of John O'Shea. We've appointed far too many managers who have never previously proven themselves as managers already.

I think he would command respect because of his playing career and his links to the Ireland job. He'd also have better contacts with younger players, many of whom would want to play in his team in the hope that they get some exposure and learn something. So for that alone he's worth it even if he's not the most inspiring of managers.

[IfYouTolerateThis]

It appears all debate has now stopped on the subject.

Happy to take all the adulation but not the criticism.

Agreed. I think what has been put into the public domain has quite frankly been embarrassing.

[magspat]

I don't honestly think John OShea would be interested in coming to us could be wrong,

[dcfc_jp_1989]

I don't honestly think John OShea would be interested in coming to us could be wrong,

Maybe so but no harm in asking

[Keyser Soze]

I don't think he's leaving Asst Ireland manager to take over us.

[Andy Bernard]

Damien Duff has the personality to inspire his players. I don't think that is true of John O'Shea. We've appointed far too many managers who have never previously proven themselves as managers already.

I think he would command respect because of his playing career and his links to the Ireland job. He'd also have better contacts with younger players, many of whom would want to play in his team in the hope that they get some exposure and learn something. So for that alone he's worth it even if he's not the most inspiring of managers.

So he wanted and failed to get a job that Steve Staunton once got. I don't think that is going to attract players. Seriously it's lunacy to want a managed that nobody knows anything about tactically or ability wise

[dcfc_jp_1989]

Damien Duff has the personality to inspire his players. I don't think that is true of John O'Shea. We've appointed far too many managers who have never previously proven themselves as managers already.

I think he would command respect because of his playing career and his links to the Ireland job. He'd also have better contacts with younger players, many of whom would want to play in his team in the hope that they get some exposure and learn something. So for that alone he's worth it even if he's not the most inspiring of managers.

So he wanted and failed to get a job that Steve Staunton once got. I don't think that is going to attract players. Seriously it's lunacy to want a managed that nobody knows anything about tactically or ability wise

Is that not what Shelbourne did with Duff?

[davybhoy]

I don't honestly think John OShea would be interested in coming to us could be wrong,

I think it would be a very interesting appointment. Will have loads of contacts for players, will excite the fans but like yourself I just can't see him leaving the Ireland position for us. Also, he prob lives in England so it would mean relocating for himself.

[Andy Bernard]

I think he would command respect because of his playing career and his links to the Ireland job. He'd also have better contacts with younger players, many of whom would want to play in his team in the hope that they get some exposure and learn something. So for that alone he's worth it even if he's not the most inspiring of managers.

So he wanted and failed to get a job that Steve Staunton once got. I don't think that is going to attract players. Seriously it's lunacy to want a managed that nobody knows anything about tactically or ability wise

Is that not what Shelbourne did with Duff?

Certain similarities for sure and the gamble paid off. Kevin Sheedy scored in the world cup against England and was a disgrace in the LOI. Duff had a bit of knowledge of the League having played in it and coaching a Rovers youth team though. If O'Shea was appointed at started playing negative hoofball nobody could complain as nobody who is calling for him to be considered actually knows what way his teams play. Does O'Shea even know himself? As I said before Duff has a force of personality. I don't think I can remember O'Shea every saying anything of interest

[marcoloco]

Just for the record I’m certainly not calling for JoS. Simply saying if he did show an interest it would certainly raise the profile of the club and ensure we sell a boat load of season tickets. Would he actually be any good!? Well that’s anybody’s guess but in the short time with Ireland I’d say he could handle a job in management at this level.

[Andy Bernard]

Genuine question. Do you think Steve Staunton could manage a LOI team?