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Re: New manager

Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2024 8:19 pm
by Paddydcfc2010
Yeah thought we would've heard word by now about Higgins. He has lost 90% of fans support and once that go's theres no coming back.

Re: New manager

Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2024 8:24 pm
by Keyser Soze
Paddydcfc2010 wrote: Wed Nov 13, 2024 8:19 pm Yeah thought we would've heard word by now about Higgins. He has lost 90% of fans support and once that go's theres no coming back.
Maybe the board are waiting to see what the season ticket sales are like coming into Xmas? Judge the mood based on that?

But to me, it's only wasting time. Unless of course the Board has no intention of changing manager.

Re: New manager

Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2024 8:53 pm
by Obamaman
What is the managers annual salary at DCFC ?

Re: New manager

Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2024 9:17 pm
by Greengo
In his words... "I'm still under contract"

I'll leave that there shall I ?

Re: New manager

Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2024 9:34 pm
by rodgers
I don't know how you reboot a 3 year project in 1 year. Unless you think might be getting a contract extension.

Re: New manager

Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2024 9:39 pm
by davybhoy
Keyser Soze wrote: Wed Nov 13, 2024 8:24 pm
Paddydcfc2010 wrote: Wed Nov 13, 2024 8:19 pm Yeah thought we would've heard word by now about Higgins. He has lost 90% of fans support and once that go's theres no coming back.
Maybe the board are waiting to see what the season ticket sales are like coming into Xmas? Judge the mood based on that?

But to me, it's only wasting time. Unless of course the Board has no intention of changing manager.
Yeah can't wait another few weeks to make a decision as the time they recruit a manager and give him a chance of getting targets you can forget about next season as you'll end up having to go back across the water as most decent LoI players will be tied up. If you don't hear anything by Fri I would say we are stuck with him even though it's a cert season ticket sales will be down.

Re: New manager

Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2024 9:48 pm
by marcoloco
Greengo wrote: Wed Nov 13, 2024 9:17 pm In his words... "I'm still under contract"

I'll leave that there shall I ?
At a very rough estimate I calculate his / the team’s failure cost the club around £1.5m in lost profit and earnings from this season.

Whatever his final yr costs are it’ll be a drop in the ocean in comparison.

Re: New manager

Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2024 12:54 am
by dcfc_jp_1989
davybhoy wrote: Wed Nov 13, 2024 9:39 pm
Keyser Soze wrote: Wed Nov 13, 2024 8:24 pm
Paddydcfc2010 wrote: Wed Nov 13, 2024 8:19 pm Yeah thought we would've heard word by now about Higgins. He has lost 90% of fans support and once that go's theres no coming back.
Maybe the board are waiting to see what the season ticket sales are like coming into Xmas? Judge the mood based on that?

But to me, it's only wasting time. Unless of course the Board has no intention of changing manager.
Yeah can't wait another few weeks to make a decision as the time they recruit a manager and give him a chance of getting targets you can forget about next season as you'll end up having to go back across the water as most decent LoI players will be tied up. If you don't hear anything by Fri I would say we are stuck with him even though it's a cert season ticket sales will be down.
& there lies a major part of our problem. Having the manager in charge of scouting, recruitment, negotiations etc means that in times like this we are in a race against time to make decisions. Having a sporting director or director of football would alleviate all that & probably prevent you from going into an end of the season where you have 10 players out of contract at once, have a replacement lined up for your goalkeeper who seems to be indicating he is going but doesn't know how to tell you. They would/should also have an idea of who should be the next manager.

I personally don't think RH will be going anywhere at this stage, backroom staff probably more likely to replaced. Regardless, something needs to change as the club needs to be getting back into Europe at the very minimum for 2026

Re: New manager

Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2024 3:27 pm
by Keyser Soze
Getting into Europe might be a challenge for us next year.

Only top 3 guaranteed European places, unless one of the top 3 wins the cup as well.

So you'd have to assume we will be behind Rovers and Pats level next season. That means we will be fighting it out with Shels for 3rd, assuming Bohs, Sligo, Cork, Galway aren't also in the running.

Re: New manager

Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2024 3:51 pm
by marcoloco
Keyser Soze wrote: Thu Nov 14, 2024 3:27 pm Getting into Europe might be a challenge for us next year.

Only top 3 guaranteed European places, unless one of the top 3 wins the cup as well.

So you'd have to assume we will be behind Rovers and Pats level next season. That means we will be fighting it out with Shels for 3rd, assuming Bohs, Sligo, Cork, Galway aren't also in the running.
I would be in shock if we finish about Shels next season. Only way that happens is if Duff leaves for a bigger job.

Re: New manager

Posted: Fri Nov 15, 2024 3:14 am
by DCFC18
A bit of realism has to come into play as well though. There isn’t many other leagues in Europe where you can go from bottom to title challenge in 3 years.

We would’ve been in a good position now to build on, however being so close to the league and cup and blowing it makes the failure seem a lot worse. The other issue is, RH clearly knows his stuff and is a good manager, but is uninspiring - and when results aren’t coming in it’s a lot easier to blame the manager when he’s not full of passion and jumping up and down the line.

I believe if we were building with RH for next season, we’d have seen at least 1 signing by now. And we haven’t, just outgoings.

In our current situation the next manager absolutely has to be young, enthusiastic and passionate. Which is hard to come by.

With the players leaving, it is definitely going to be a rebuild, and it needs a manger with fresh ideas and passion, to build the team around local young players - not because I particularly care about where our players are from, but because I don’t think we’ll be splashing the cash on your Wisdoms, Patchings, Diallo etc from oversees.

If RH does stay, good luck in the transfer window. Maybe it’s just me but this years available and out of contract players in LOI/NIFL is looking bleak.

Re: New manager

Posted: Fri Nov 15, 2024 7:58 am
by davybhoy
If he does stay he needs to change his philosophy and be a lot more attack minded as the vast majority of the support are absolutely fed up of the slow build up, the diagonal balls over to Duffy etc. A slow starr to next season and the knives will be sharpened pretty quickly as things turn ugly.

Re: New manager

Posted: Fri Nov 15, 2024 9:41 am
by Nige92
Belfast Telegraph reporting that he's gone.

https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/spor ... 57184.html

Re: New manager

Posted: Fri Nov 15, 2024 10:07 am
by Marty
The only possible decision. The most enjoyable Friday all year.

It’s a shame that Higgins was continued to be put a position he wasn’t able for, and we had to sit through it.

It only costs us a double and European money.

Re: New manager

Posted: Fri Nov 15, 2024 10:17 am
by davybhoy
On a personal level it's not nice seeing anyone losing their livelihood but it's in the best interest of the club.

The club need to get the feel good factor back and hopefully they pick the right man for the job

Re: New manager

Posted: Fri Nov 15, 2024 10:20 am
by Keyser Soze
The read out is well and truly on.

The manager, both McEleneys. Many more to come.

Re: New manager

Posted: Fri Nov 15, 2024 10:26 am
by marcoloco
It's now official. Higgins has gone. And relax.

Good luck to him. Loves the club but his time was up long ago.

He'll get another job no problem.

Re: New manager

Posted: Fri Nov 15, 2024 10:34 am
by PauliAlonso
Was clear over the last couple of weeks that this was coming. The fan revolt made it inevitable. I'm just sorry that his time will be remembered for the last few months at the end, rather than the brilliant turnaround that he led over the previous three years. I've no doubt that he'll develop into a successful manager.

All the best Ruaidhri! CTID

Re: New manager

Posted: Fri Nov 15, 2024 10:36 am
by brandyball
Job was too big for him.

Re: New manager

Posted: Fri Nov 15, 2024 10:39 am
by Gerrymc
All the best to him. Think he got too much flak when players needed to shoulder more of the blame. Best of luck CTID