We need a manager who has actually done something and won something in the game.
It's not like we don't have the money for it. We have a very expensive team of also-rans
Anywhere in world? Britain? Ireland? Has to have won league titles? What’s the minimum?
We have a manager who has won something btw.
Higgins hadn't won anything when he joined us. He'd just been someone else's second string. And to be honest, it has shown over the last 3yrs. He's just out of his depth really.
We need a proven winner. And we can certaonly afford one.
The Board must be worried about the fact they have 2,000+ extra tickets to sell for next year, when the crowds for large part of this year have been disappointing - even with the reduced capacity. Once it becomes easier to get tickets, I suspect a lot of people just won;t bother with an ST and will pick and choose their games instead. Almost certainly if Higgins is still there to serve up dire football.
So what constitutes a proven winner? A league title in Ireland. Multiple league title wins in Ireland? Cup wins?
Promotions?
If Paul Diamond, Philip O’Doherty and Co are willing to keep backing the status quo then I’m not rocking that boat as the rest of us couldn’t keep it afloat.
Having no confidence in the board, the manager or the players will surely cause them to want away and leave us to sort it out.
This manager has turned good players into rubbish remember when patching, delio(sorry for spelling) came here they were class now he's turned them into mediocre players.the sooner he's gone the better
I believe we missed our best chance when we missed our on Steven Kenny,and I blame the board for sticking with Higgins, they to take blame for where we are now
After how we faded away badly last season, I think starting this year with RH in charge was wasting an opportunity, and the wrong decision.
We have a massive squad and budget, have attracted some of the country's most coveted players, yet can't get them to produce as a team.
This was our best chance to win the league this year, but we have gone backwards as a team. The stadium was a sell out to begin the season, you couldn't get tickets for love nor money. Then it started to empty week on week cos the product getting served up was terrible. I'd estimate we lost close to 1000 fans when they dipped to their lowest. And this was despite us challenging at the top of the league. But people were bored. And they voted with their feet.
And our Manager comes out when he has one good victory and takes a dig at the doubters, basically saying publicly "where are all the moaners now". But sure enough, the form doesn't last, and we are back playing muck again. But then he bigs up the opposition despite them being 9th in a 10 team league. We are playing Real Madrid every week it seems in the managers head.
And rather ironically, we could still win the double. And also of course finish with nothing. But to achieve the former, we'd need to win every remaining game, and I simply can't see us doing that. The stats this season would also say we aren't capable of it. I would love us to do it, as its going to be even more difficult next season.
Keyser Soze wrote: Fri Sep 27, 2024 9:41 pm
Where are all the Higgins fans now?
Here.
I will always support one of the best managers that we've had at the club in 25 years - no other DC manager has gotten us two 2nd place finishes in that time, apart from SK.
I will always support the manager who has us STILL in the running for a double.
The players were poor against Drogheda, that's on them, not the manager.
Who would ever want to work at this club when your own fans want you gone in the final stages of a title/double challenge??
Keyser Soze wrote: Fri Sep 27, 2024 9:41 pm
Where are all the Higgins fans now?
The players were poor against Drogheda, that's on them, not the manager.
Who would ever want to work at this club when your own fans want you gone in the final stages of a title/double challenge??
First off, I have said I don't want him gone now. There's no point at this stage with 5 games left.
And secondly, I really really hope he writes his name into the history books with a double.
You say the players were poor against Drogs, that's on them. Most of the team has been underperforming for most of the season, who is that on? Surely if we are playing terrible, and are dropping too many points , that has to be on the manager eventually? He picks the team, buys the players, sells the players, decides on tactics.
Used to be assistant at Shels, has kept Drogheda in the top flight, and he's made short work of us repeatedly and at least his teams come out on the front foot and will outrun and out fight you.
Even Vinny Perth will be looking at Derry thinking he could improve them.
I'd also look at other young managers north and south and if there are any stand out candidates then i'd be speaking to them regardless of how we finish the season.
We need someone that can motivate the team and then give them a clear game plan. We seem to lack both of these things under Higgins.
Forget Paddy McL. If he's claimed - by some - to be our saviour, why hasn't he gotten a job anywhere since leaving us? Cork in the First Division were looking, and went with someone else. We have a manager already who has us in a title challenge, support him. No-one will care about the style of play if we win the league. Does anyone think the Greeks or the Portuguese care about the football they played when they won the Euros? Closer to home, the "Kenny Out" brigade abandoned any hope of a better style of football, to revert to shite football under Heimir, just so that the "best fans in the world" (TM) can go off on a jolly somewhere warm. If Higgins wants to park the bus for the next 5 games and win each one 1-0 and give us our first title in 27 years, he has my blessing. We can worry about tiki-taka later, as defending champions.
PauliAlonso wrote: Mon Sep 30, 2024 1:29 pm
Forget Paddy McL. If he's claimed - by some - to be our saviour, why hasn't he gotten a job anywhere since leaving us? Cork in the First Division were looking, and went with someone else. We have a manager already who has us in a title challenge, support him. No-one will care about the style of play if we win the league. Does anyone think the Greeks or the Portuguese care about the football they played when they won the Euros? Closer to home, the "Kenny Out" brigade abandoned any hope of a better style of football, to revert to shite football under Heimir, just so that the "best fans in the world" (TM) can go off on a jolly somewhere warm. If Higgins wants to park the bus for the next 5 games and win each one 1-0 and give us our first title in 27 years, he has my blessing. We can worry about tiki-taka later, as defending champions.
I don't think anyone would care about our style of play if we were picking up wins, but we aren't so that's why the fans are not happy.
We've seen it a lot this season in the league and in Europe. Any sort of high pressure game and we don't turn up.
Shelbourne have 1 league win in the last eight and we are still 4 points behind. As bad as shels have been if they win tonight there's no hope we close a seven point gap at this stage.
Paddydcfc2010 wrote: Mon Sep 30, 2024 2:44 pm
I don't think anyone would care about our style of play if we were picking up wins, but we aren't so that's why the fans are not happy.
We've seen it a lot this season in the league and in Europe. Any sort of high pressure game and we don't turn up.
Shelbourne have 1 league win in the last eight and we are still 4 points behind. As bad as shels have been if they win tonight there's no hope we close a seven point gap at this stage.
Yes and No.
If Im being honest I gave up on Higgins early on in the season and we were still picking up wins back then. I hear what you're saying about winning is all that matters at the end of the day but any joy with that approach is short lived if you can't get the basics right. We might stumble over the line in 1st to 4th spot this season but really we should have done better than that. That's why I'd still make a change even if we manage to stay in the race until the end. For me, even if we win something i've seen enough and I don't think its sustainable under Higgins. He's only managed to avoid widespread criticism because others have failed to build a lead too. We've been relying on Shels stumbling this past 2 months just to keep our bid alive. That's not good enough imo.
PauliAlonso wrote: Mon Sep 30, 2024 1:29 pm
Forget Paddy McL. If he's claimed - by some - to be our saviour, why hasn't he gotten a job anywhere since leaving us? Cork in the First Division were looking, and went with someone else. We have a manager already who has us in a title challenge, support him. No-one will care about the style of play if we win the league. Does anyone think the Greeks or the Portuguese care about the football they played when they won the Euros? Closer to home, the "Kenny Out" brigade abandoned any hope of a better style of football, to revert to shite football under Heimir, just so that the "best fans in the world" (TM) can go off on a jolly somewhere warm. If Higgins wants to park the bus for the next 5 games and win each one 1-0 and give us our first title in 27 years, he has my blessing. We can worry about tiki-taka later, as defending champions.
Paddy turned down Cork. Maybe he's now waiting on the City job.
