Derry City v Shelbourne

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Boys we were two minutes from going top of the tree

The lord gave us two ears and two eyes and one mouth after. I wish more of our fans would use them in that order

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Kelly & Oreily both deserved their yellow cards for professional fouls. Boyce was unlucky. Won the ball but left a trailing height foot. Dohertys was harsh.

Shels were excellent at the end. Once they went a goal down they made the changes and lifted the tempo. Deserved their goal.

We didn’t create too much. Oriely really unlucky with the keeper to beat. Otherwise it was a bit frantic.

Don’t think either team deserved to lose.

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Derry started with one striker and Shels with none.

Feel like again the substitutions just invite pressure. Heard Higgins say afterwards that they controlled the game.

Waits until an equaliser before bringing on Mullen.

Some Derry players looked tired by end.

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Shells controlled the ball. Derry did all the running and closing down. When Duff made his subs there was only 1 team going to score.

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Same old story playing first goal wins. How many points have we lost from winning positions under his tenure. We’re always reacting to what’s happening in the game rather than being proactive

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marcoloco wrote: Mon May 06, 2024 10:30 pm Kelly & Oreily both deserved their yellow cards for professional fouls. Boyce was unlucky. Won the ball but left a trailing height foot. Dohertys was harsh.

Shels were excellent at the end. Once they went a goal down they made the changes and lifted the tempo. Deserved their goal.

We didn’t create too much. Oriely really unlucky with the keeper to beat. Otherwise it was a bit frantic.

Don’t think either team deserved to lose.
Twice the Ref plays advantage when Shels players committed blatant fouls including grabbing City player around the waist to stop a breakaway,but then didn't book the said players. Ref was shocking.

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Too
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Disappointing in the end but once again we were the better side and but for an outstanding save by Kearn’s from O’Reilly we would have won handy enough. Game imo was high quality in tactical approach technical ability and quality of football. Shels are technically and tactically up there but are dour to watch. Struggle to understand how so called Derry fans talk them up while criticising Derry’s approach. We have played them twice now and only one team wanted to win both games. Once again we carried little luck but that will change.

The Donegal ref last night was the worst I have seen this season. He gave us nothing. Boyce clearly won the tackle he got booked for. Because of that he tried to jockey Jarvis instead of putting his tackle in and Jarvis got his cross in for the goal. Fine margins. Don’t think they created a clear chance in the game other than that.

But despite everything and not yet playing well we are sitting in nicely……….

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mokendismucker wrote: Tue May 07, 2024 8:01 am Disappointing in the end but once again we were the better side and but for an outstanding save by Kearn’s from O’Reilly we would have won handy enough. Game imo was high quality in tactical approach technical ability and quality of football. Shels are technically and tactically up there but are dour to watch. Struggle to understand how so called Derry fans talk them up while criticising Derry’s approach. We have played them twice now and only one team wanted to win both games. Once again we carried little luck but that will change.

The Donegal ref last night was the worst I have seen this season. He gave us nothing. Boyce clearly won the tackle he got booked for. Because of that he tried to jockey Jarvis instead of putting his tackle in and Jarvis got his cross in for the goal. Fine margins. Don’t think they created a clear chance in the game other than that.

But despite everything and not yet playing well we are sitting in nicely……….

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Not sure if we were the better side. We looked good and when we had the ball moved it forward at pace... until Duff made the changes then Shels excelled. It was an enjoyable match with little chances for either side. We were the home team so the onnous is on us to control the game and push the opposition but in fairness to Shels they had lots of the ball and were patient. We created 1 clear opportunity and the rest were shots from distance. Shels were similar in their approach so not surprising to see it end in a draw. Higgins is too defensively minded to win the league. Too often we try and hold on to a win (home and away) and end up conceding late in the game. Rovers, Dogheda, Shels...

Boyce won the ball 100% but got the yellow card for catching the Shels player with his raised leg on the followthrough. Can't do that with the ref standing right over them.

I have little issue with our yellow cards. What I do have issue with is the lack of yellows handed out for Shel's fouls.

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Fine but Duff set up defensive from the start. Of course when you are 1-0 down you will throw on your centre forward particularly when you didn’t start with one. Hardly tactical genius. And tell me what manager throws on forwards when you are leading by a goal with 10 mins to go? Some examples would be helpful to understanding such tactical brilliance. I don’t know another manager who wouldn’t look to close a game out if he’s winning with 10 mins to go but happy to be educated.

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mokendismucker wrote: Tue May 07, 2024 10:57 am Fine but Duff set up defensive from the start. Of course when you are 1-0 down you will throw on your centre forward particularly when you didn’t start with one. Hardly tactical genius. And tell me what manager throws on forwards when you are leading by a goal with 10 mins to go? Some examples would be helpful to understanding such tactical brilliance. I don’t know another manager who wouldn’t look to close a game out if he’s winning with 10 mins to go but happy to be educated.
No problem. Duff set up as they have done all season. Hard to beat, pack the midfield and hope to nick a goal. As the away team that's what they did and it kept the ball away from Derry for large periods of the game. So we were reduced to shots from distance which worked a treat until they gifted us a goal.

At 1 up Derry had their tails up. We pressed for the winner and came so close with O'Reiley. Duff had seen enough, made the changes and threw on the big man up front.

Knowing that he got no joy out of Coll and Doherty and their playmaker Jarvis was on the other side pushing up on Boyce that's where they played all their balls for the last 15 minutes. This is where is all went wrong for Higgins...

Rather than double up on Jarivs Higgins takes off Kelly and plays Diallo in the centre. So Boyce is now exposed, and is reduced to making a 2 footed sliding tackle for which he's booked. Then moments later is afriad to make a challenge for the attack that leads to a goal.

Duff tactical masterclass. Higgins schooled again. 2 points lost.

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marcoloco wrote: Tue May 07, 2024 11:41 am
mokendismucker wrote: Tue May 07, 2024 10:57 am Fine but Duff set up defensive from the start. Of course when you are 1-0 down you will throw on your centre forward particularly when you didn’t start with one. Hardly tactical genius. And tell me what manager throws on forwards when you are leading by a goal with 10 mins to go? Some examples would be helpful to understanding such tactical brilliance. I don’t know another manager who wouldn’t look to close a game out if he’s winning with 10 mins to go but happy to be educated.
No problem. Duff set up as they have done all season. Hard to beat, pack the midfield and hope to nick a goal. As the away team that's what they did and it kept the ball away from Derry for large periods of the game. So we were reduced to shots from distance which worked a treat until they gifted us a goal.

At 1 up Derry had their tails up. We pressed for the winner and came so close with O'Reiley. Duff had seen enough, made the changes and threw on the big man up front.

Knowing that he got no joy out of Coll and Doherty and their playmaker Jarvis was on the other side pushing up on Boyce that's where they played all their balls for the last 15 minutes. This is where is all went wrong for Higgins...

Rather than double up on Jarivs Higgins takes off Kelly and plays Diallo in the centre. So Boyce is now exposed, and is reduced to making a 2 footed sliding tackle for which he's booked. Then moments later is afriad to make a challenge for the attack that leads to a goal.

Duff tactical masterclass. Higgins schooled again. 2 points lost.
Great analysis. Mc Mullan who had hassled them all night and worried their keeper was drafted wide to allow DIALO in He forgot his role for 10 secs Raced to close the keeper left Boyce exposed Watch Mc Mullan race 50 yds to try to make up but too late Cross goal . Tbh Boyce a fav of mine is fouling a lot Heseems confused as to his cover Kelly it’s his pace was doing ok Why oh why these unnecessary subs look at our foul stats not good. To give set piece teams so much advantage

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Boyces tackle was a yellow all day long.

He had both feet off the ground, and could have possibly caused a bad injury. Yes he may have connected with the ball first but in the modern rules that isn't OK any more.

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Keyser Soze wrote: Tue May 07, 2024 1:20 pm Boyces tackle was a yellow all day long.

He had both feet off the ground, and could have possibly caused a bad injury. Yes he may have connected with the ball first but in the modern rules that isn't OK any more.
100%.

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eugenio wrote: Tue May 07, 2024 12:58 pm
marcoloco wrote: Tue May 07, 2024 11:41 am
mokendismucker wrote: Tue May 07, 2024 10:57 am Fine but Duff set up defensive from the start. Of course when you are 1-0 down you will throw on your centre forward particularly when you didn’t start with one. Hardly tactical genius. And tell me what manager throws on forwards when you are leading by a goal with 10 mins to go? Some examples would be helpful to understanding such tactical brilliance. I don’t know another manager who wouldn’t look to close a game out if he’s winning with 10 mins to go but happy to be educated.
No problem. Duff set up as they have done all season. Hard to beat, pack the midfield and hope to nick a goal. As the away team that's what they did and it kept the ball away from Derry for large periods of the game. So we were reduced to shots from distance which worked a treat until they gifted us a goal.

At 1 up Derry had their tails up. We pressed for the winner and came so close with O'Reiley. Duff had seen enough, made the changes and threw on the big man up front.

Knowing that he got no joy out of Coll and Doherty and their playmaker Jarvis was on the other side pushing up on Boyce that's where they played all their balls for the last 15 minutes. This is where is all went wrong for Higgins...

Rather than double up on Jarivs Higgins takes off Kelly and plays Diallo in the centre. So Boyce is now exposed, and is reduced to making a 2 footed sliding tackle for which he's booked. Then moments later is afriad to make a challenge for the attack that leads to a goal.

Duff tactical masterclass. Higgins schooled again. 2 points lost.
Great analysis. Mc Mullan who had hassled them all night and worried their keeper was drafted wide to allow DIALO in He forgot his role for 10 secs Raced to close the keeper left Boyce exposed Watch Mc Mullan race 50 yds to try to make up but too late Cross goal . Tbh Boyce a fav of mine is fouling a lot Heseems confused as to his cover Kelly it’s his pace was doing ok Why oh why these unnecessary subs look at our foul stats not good. To give set piece teams so much advantage
Good spot Eugenio on McMullan - i missed that. Boyce is a good player and likes to get forward. But he needs support and can't do it all on his own. Kelly's decision making and sloppy passing is a frustration.

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Re: Derry City v Shelbourne

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“Duff tactical masterclass”.

Scratching a draw in the last minute a tactical masterclass with the only chance you create in the game. Sums you negative heads up…………

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mokendismucker wrote: Tue May 07, 2024 7:27 pm “Duff tactical masterclass”.

Scratching a draw in the last minute a tactical masterclass with the only chance you create in the game. Sums you negative heads up…………
You are a contradiction....

We are the negative heads but Higgins is not... yet we've been calling for a more positive approach to games in recent weeks and you've been 100% behind Higgins's conservative approach. We're negative but you see nothing wrong with shutting up shop and defending a 1 goal lead with 20 minutes remaining?

PS. Duff's Shelbourne side are sitting top of the league on merit. And sure what does he know about tactics?

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2 cheeks of the one ass. 2 flies fighting over excrement. Both believe they are tactical geniuses.

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marcoloco wrote: Tue May 07, 2024 8:14 pm
mokendismucker wrote: Tue May 07, 2024 7:27 pm “Duff tactical masterclass”.

Scratching a draw in the last minute a tactical masterclass with the only chance you create in the game. Sums you negative heads up…………
You are a contradiction....

We are the negative heads but Higgins is not... yet we've been calling for a more positive approach to games in recent weeks and you've been 100% behind Higgins's conservative approach. We're negative but you see nothing wrong with shutting up shop and defending a 1 goal lead with 20 minutes remaining?

PS. Duff's Shelbourne side are sitting top of the league on merit. And sure what does he know about tactics?
It’s referring to the never ending negativity and fault picking towards Derry.

So remind me again what tactical geniuses don’t tighten up when a goal ahead in the final quarter of a game? Just one example.

Duff wouldn’t win the league and the style of his football is negative. The tactical genius has 1 win in his last 7 games. They were 8 points clear of Derry a few games ago. They will be behind Derry when they come back on 1 November. But then of course St Pats were being tauted as having signed better players than Derry and were going to finish above us in the league. How’s that going?

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