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Re: Brandywell Stadium Development

Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2017 3:16 pm
by Burny89
shauna wrote:
kitwe wrote:guy on site told me there is a lot of top soil to be removed so that a much lower level is achieved throughout the whole site. I think he included the showgrounds next door

Will take a good few months to remove all that top soil so its becoming pretty obvious why the work on the stadium will take a year when you factor in the new stand, perimeter walls and greyhound track in showgrounds have also to be built. Thanks Kitwe for keeping us updated.
A few months to remove the topsoil? They ain't doing it with shovels and a wheel barrow

Re: Brandywell Stadium Development

Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2017 7:31 pm
by micdaflic
I know its too late to ask! But why could the pitch not have been moved and relaid as stage 1, then the building work on new stand done as stage 2 or is this too logical? Bye the way if the assembly collapses and there is an election you can be sure that Martin's assurances of further funding is dead

Re: Brandywell Stadium Development

Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2017 5:22 pm
by stevebradley
micdaflic wrote:I know its too late to ask! But why could the pitch not have been moved and relaid as stage 1, then the building work on new stand done as stage 2 or is this too logical? Bye the way if the assembly collapses and there is an election you can be sure that Martin's assurances of further funding is dead
This is a risk alright, but with Sinn Fein likely to still be in government after any election it should still be on the cards.

An election would throw everything up in the air, and there would be a good chance of two completely different FM and DFMs afterwards, even if the parties are the same. Having a DFM from and representing Derry hardly moved mountains for the city, so I'm not sure it would change much afterwards tbh.

Just seen McGuinness interviewed on the BBC and he doesn't look or sound well. He's visibly aged about 5-10years in a couple of weeks.

Re: Brandywell Stadium Development

Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2017 5:32 pm
by shauna
stevebradley wrote:
micdaflic wrote:I know its too late to ask! But why could the pitch not have been moved and relaid as stage 1, then the building work on new stand done as stage 2 or is this too logical? Bye the way if the assembly collapses and there is an election you can be sure that Martin's assurances of further funding is dead
This is a risk alright, but with Sinn Fein likely to still be in government after any election it should still be on the cards.

An election would throw everything up in the air, and there would be a good chance of two completely different FM and DFMs afterwards, even if the parties are the same. Having a DFM from and representing Derry hardly moved mountains for the city, so I'm not sure it would change much afterwards tbh.

Just seen McGuinness interviewed on the BBC and he doesn't look or sound well. He's visibly aged about 5-10years in a couple of weeks.
I have been told recently by a reliable source in the republican movement that martin has recently been diagnosed with major heart problems.

Re: Brandywell Stadium Development

Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2017 6:22 pm
by MariborKev
micdaflic wrote:I know its too late to ask! But why could the pitch not have been moved and relaid as stage 1, then the building work on new stand done as stage 2 or is this too logical? Bye the way if the assembly collapses and there is an election you can be sure that Martin's assurances of further funding is dead
One would assume as the work has to be done from "inside out", otherwise the Lone Moor Road would be closed for months.

Re: Brandywell Stadium Development

Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2017 8:15 pm
by micdaflic
MariborKev wrote:
micdaflic wrote:I know its too late to ask! But why could the pitch not have been moved and relaid as stage 1, then the building work on new stand done as stage 2 or is this too logical? Bye the way if the assembly collapses and there is an election you can be sure that Martin's assurances of further funding is dead
One would assume as the work has to be done from "inside out", otherwise the Lone Moor Road would be closed for months.
What I mean is that the new pitch "moved" near to Southend stand would have allowed DC to play games while all the LM road right out to existing dugouts could then be worked on building new wall and stand etc. These are 2 separate areas, also changing facilities in the youth club could have been used as temp measure as I think they were for some euro games in the past. All hypothetical, I know, but major clubs build new stands without impacting on the pitch

Re: Brandywell Stadium Development

Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2017 10:52 pm
by paul60
How's the greyhound track coming on? Is the centre of it a pitch/training facility without dog deposits!

Re: Brandywell Stadium Development

Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2017 10:55 pm
by johnm
14 to go!

Re: Brandywell Stadium Development

Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2017 11:38 pm
by shauna
johnm wrote:14 to go!
14 of what ?

Re: Brandywell Stadium Development

Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 12:38 pm
by Greengo
Months

Re: Brandywell Stadium Development

Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 8:27 pm
by magspat
Greengo wrote:Months
Was told today that the full stand will be completed this year money was available to do it.

Re: Brandywell Stadium Development

Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 9:01 pm
by shauna
magspat wrote:
Greengo wrote:Months
Was told today that the full stand will be completed this year money was available to do it.
Happy days thats brilliant news if it happens.

Re: Brandywell Stadium Development

Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 10:07 pm
by stevebradley
magspat wrote:
Greengo wrote:Months
Was told today that the full stand will be completed this year money was available to do it.
Who was your source for this Magspat ?

Given the huge uncertainty around NI politics at the moment, it would be a brave call for anyone to state something like that categorically. There isn't a budget in place for 2017/8 yet, and doesn't look there'll be one for quite a few months at best either. Also - t isn't out of the question that we could end up with a period of direct rule whilst everything sorts itself out, which would probably see funding decisions grind to a halt almost entirely.

Re: Brandywell Stadium Development

Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 10:30 pm
by magspat
stevebradley wrote:
magspat wrote:
Greengo wrote:Months
Was told today that the full stand will be completed this year money was available to do it.
Who was your source for this Magspat ?

Given the huge uncertainty around NI politics at the moment, it would be a brave call for anyone to state something like that categorically. There isn't a budget in place for 2017/8 yet, and doesn't look there'll be one for quite a few months at best either. Also - t isn't out of the question that we could end up with a period of direct rule whilst everything sorts itself out, which would probably see funding decisions grind to a halt almost entirely.
A fellow who is working on the Brandwell project that's what he told me ,he said that was the plan last Thursday wheteher thiings could change I do not know.

Re: Brandywell Stadium Development

Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 10:32 pm
by micdaflic
Glens saying Stormont BS may mean £36m for football will not be forthcoming in near future [Belfast Telegraph]

Re: Brandywell Stadium Development

Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 10:43 pm
by magspat
micdaflic wrote:Glens saying Stormont BS may mean £36m for football will not be forthcoming in near future [Belfast Telegraph]
Brandywell contract started can't go back have to honour contract.

Re: Brandywell Stadium Development

Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 10:58 pm
by shauna
magspat wrote:
micdaflic wrote:Glens saying Stormont BS may mean £36m for football will not be forthcoming in near future [Belfast Telegraph]
Brandywell contract started can't go back have to honour contract.
Yea but phase 1 the work underway now at the brandywell is entirely council funded no money came from stormont it was phase 2 money that was due from stormont. So stormonts part of the deal hasnt started yet so they basically have nothing to honour.

Re: Brandywell Stadium Development

Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 11:07 pm
by Larry Banger
magspat wrote:
Greengo wrote:Months
Was told today that the full stand will be completed this year money was available to do it.
Working up there and I haven't heard anything like that. Maybe the constant moaning I've been doing up there about the size of it has gotten to em :)

Re: Brandywell Stadium Development

Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 11:11 pm
by magspat
Larry Banger wrote:
magspat wrote:
Greengo wrote:Months
Was told today that the full stand will be completed this year money was available to do it.
Working up there and I haven't heard anything like that. Maybe the constant moaning I've been doing up there about the size of it has gotten to em :)
Must have.h

Re: Brandywell Stadium Development

Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2017 1:19 am
by stevebradley
magspat wrote:
stevebradley wrote: Who was your source for this Magspat ?

Given the huge uncertainty around NI politics at the moment, it would be a brave call for anyone to state something like that categorically. There isn't a budget in place for 2017/8 yet, and doesn't look there'll be one for quite a few months at best either. Also - t isn't out of the question that we could end up with a period of direct rule whilst everything sorts itself out, which would probably see funding decisions grind to a halt almost entirely.
A fellow who is working on the Brandwell project that's what he told me ,he said that was the plan last Thursday wheteher thiings could change I do not know.
Everything changed on Monday when McGuinness stood down as DFM though. Unallocated funding remains unallocated, and there's no clarity at all on when it will get allocated. Deals done between McGuinness and Robinson will be old news that would probably need to be re-horse-traded for under any new Executive.

With Sinn Fein now talking about not wanting to go back to the way things were in the Executive after any election, it's hard to see things getting resolved any time soon.

In short - there is no Phase II money for Brandywell from Stormont. And no clarity at all at this moment re if and when there will be.