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Re: Brandywell Stadium Development

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2016 11:04 pm
by Andy Bernard
Maybe youll see what the fuss is about when we can't play European games at home Magspat

Re: Brandywell Stadium Development

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2016 11:15 pm
by Venkman
magspat wrote:Don't know what all the fuss is about iif we can get 3,600 fans at every home match we will doing well ,if we got a big new stand we would be lucky of it was half full anyway more concerned what will happen on the pitch new signings etc.PS I don't work for Derry Strabane council just a rate payer like everyone else.
People just don't pay rates but income tax too. What are people in Derry getting for their tax contribution?

Re: Brandywell Stadium Development

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2016 11:30 pm
by magspat
What about the people from Derry who pay rates income tax who don't support sport of anykind

Iam sure they will be delighted with the opening of a new cancer centre at Altnagelvin next week as we all are more ,mportant than a big stand.

Re: Brandywell Stadium Development

Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2016 12:05 am
by Venkman
Nobody is interested in absolutely everything that rates revenue funds. So we can have only one of the things smaller places get. No motorway, stadium, university, jobs or transport links but lets all be grateful and forget because Derry finally got a medical facility we should have had decades ago. Bad enough to hear people from places like Belfast tell us that's all we deserve but unbelievable to hear it from Derry people.

Re: Brandywell Stadium Development

Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2016 12:18 am
by magspat
Venkman wrote:Nobody is interested in absolutely everything that rates revenue funds. So we can have only one of the things smaller places get. No motorway, stadium, university, jobs or transport links but lets all be grateful and forget because Derry finally got a medical facility we should have had decades ago. Bad enough to hear people from places like Belfast tell us that's all we deserve but unbelievable to hear it from Derry people.
Venkman I agree 100% what your are saying but you and I know most times we don't get what we deserve.

Re: Brandywell Stadium Development

Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2016 1:17 am
by stevebradley
yef from the port wrote:But what can the club do Steve really. The club has no money to put in the pot so we have to take what we can get unfortunately. I thought it was common knowledge that we're only get a bit part of a stand for now. Good luck and fair play to everyone that turns up on Thursday. I just hope some people from the council have the manners to turn up to hear your protests.
A range of people, including but not only myself, have been saying on here for over 10yrs that the club should start putting money aside in order to have something to contribute to any stadium development. We never suggested saving up millions - but something to help cover feasibility studies, credible consultant report etc as and when needed to help give the club a case to push. And if anyone says we didn't have the money - what about the unbudgeted windfalls we got for selling players like James McClean and Paddy McCourt ?

Instead every penny we've had over the last decade has been spent on players. Every penny. Resulting in no league titles, a few FAI Cups/League Cups, a bankruptcy that nearly killed us, and our first ever demotion. And it's left us in a helpless state re our stadium future, which is why we are where we are now.

What if we'd spent the last decade or more putting at least SOMETHING aside so we weren't reduced to beggars on this ? Or what if we'd shown a bit of imagination and made the case for a much better stadium development, potentially somewhere else ?

No-one has made DCFC helpless on this issue IMO. We've happily done it to ourselves.

Re: Brandywell Stadium Development

Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2016 1:24 am
by stevebradley
cousin kev wrote:£138m public funding allocated towards stadium upgrades in NI!..

Belfast
- £28m to Windsor Park, privately owned by Linfield FC - Completed!
- £64m for Casement Park, privately owned by Antrim GAA
- £10m being held aside for Glentorans new stadium or for the development of the Oval, the rest funded from the sale of part or all their current ground
- £14.5m for Ulster Rugby's Ravenhill Stadium, privately owned by IRFU - Completed

Derry
- Celtic Park ,privately owned by Derry GAA, to be further developed if Ireland host the 2023 rugby word cup, but only if Casement Park, Belfast, is not ready.
- £6m for Brandywell Stadium, council owned and in a very poor condition with health and safety issues. Phase one to begin this month, with a new 1000 seat stand, 2 changing rooms and space for portaloos! Plans also include a 4G pitch that noone wants, and that are being torn up all over Europe due to health concerns. Consultation could begin next year for 2nd phase of project, subject to planning and availability of funds. Main stand was built in 1991 with a capacity of 2500, currently restricted to 1800 for safety reasons.

Some of these stats might not be entirely accurate, but they're not very far off the mark!

fucking provision for portaloos!!!!! I'd rather piss under the stars.
Don't forget Kev - that £6m is for the entire Showgrounds site, not just the football stadium. I would estimate somewhere between £1.5-2.5m max is going into Brandywell Stadium itself. Some to do work which should have happened years ago anyway e.g. not holding up the Southend wall with wooden beams.

Re: Brandywell Stadium Development

Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2016 8:29 pm
by adydcfc
Anyone on here making their way over to the protest tomorrow?

Re: Brandywell Stadium Development

Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2016 10:40 pm
by Adam Quigley
adydcfc wrote:Anyone on here making their way over to the protest tomorrow?
I'll be there.

Re: Brandywell Stadium Development

Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2016 11:09 am
by Joe_Doherty
adydcfc wrote:Anyone on here making their way over to the protest tomorrow?
Im in work Adrian.

Re: Brandywell Stadium Development

Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2016 11:22 am
by shauna
See all the council and sinn fein dick heads pictured in the derry news cutting the first sod and sean barrett stuck in the middle of them, what a plonker that man is looking so happy with council mediocrity.

Re: Brandywell Stadium Development

Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2016 1:46 pm
by KEVK
stevebradley wrote:
cousin kev wrote:£138m public funding allocated towards stadium upgrades in NI!..

Belfast
- £28m to Windsor Park, privately owned by Linfield FC - Completed!
- £64m for Casement Park, privately owned by Antrim GAA
- £10m being held aside for Glentorans new stadium or for the development of the Oval, the rest funded from the sale of part or all their current ground
- £14.5m for Ulster Rugby's Ravenhill Stadium, privately owned by IRFU - Completed

Derry
- Celtic Park ,privately owned by Derry GAA, to be further developed if Ireland host the 2023 rugby word cup, but only if Casement Park, Belfast, is not ready.
- £6m for Brandywell Stadium, council owned and in a very poor condition with health and safety issues. Phase one to begin this month, with a new 1000 seat stand, 2 changing rooms and space for portaloos! Plans also include a 4G pitch that noone wants, and that are being torn up all over Europe due to health concerns. Consultation could begin next year for 2nd phase of project, subject to planning and availability of funds. Main stand was built in 1991 with a capacity of 2500, currently restricted to 1800 for safety reasons.

Some of these stats might not be entirely accurate, but they're not very far off the mark!

fucking provision for portaloos!!!!! I'd rather piss under the stars.
Don't forget Kev - that £6m is for the entire Showgrounds site, not just the football stadium. I would estimate somewhere between £1.5-2.5m max is going into Brandywell Stadium itself. Some to do work which should have happened years ago anyway e.g. not holding up the Southend wall with wooden beams.
Steve,

I was told by a Councillor that around £5 million will be spent on the stadium with the rest of it going on moving the dog track and some other things - there should be around £7 million in total to begin with.

Application for funding for Phase 2 should be going in to Stormont around February time - I just hope the Council actually put an application in. They have failed to do this in the past when money was made available.

Re: Brandywell Stadium Development

Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2016 1:59 pm
by Burny89
So when/if ever phase two is built will the club have to be relocated again? Or is the relocation simply because of moving the actual pitch?

Re: Brandywell Stadium Development

Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2016 2:45 pm
by brendy_éire
Burny89 wrote:So when/if ever phase two is built will the club have to be relocated again? Or is the relocation simply because of moving the actual pitch?
I'd imagine they'll be able to tack the extensions on to the end of the existing stand, so we wouldn't need to move.

Re: Brandywell Stadium Development

Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2016 7:04 pm
by shauna
Well done to the 30 or so fans who turned up to protest at the guildhall, your efforts in letting the council know our disgust at the half a stand development are appreciated by all derry fans.

Re: Brandywell Stadium Development

Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2016 7:16 pm
by adydcfc
shauna wrote:Well done to the 30 or so fans who turned up to protest at the guildhall, your efforts in letting the council know our disgust at the half a stand development are appreciated by all derry fans.
I maybe wrong but there is a sound of sarcasm in that post. It's a start and we plan further protests from mailys to the brandywell on sunday. Anyone wishing to join us we'll be at mailys from 12.30 on sunday!

Re: Brandywell Stadium Development

Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2016 7:51 pm
by shauna
adydcfc wrote:
shauna wrote:Well done to the 30 or so fans who turned up to protest at the guildhall, your efforts in letting the council know our disgust at the half a stand development are appreciated by all derry fans.
I maybe wrong but there is a sound of sarcasm in that post. It's a start and we plan further protests from mailys to the brandywell on sunday. Anyone wishing to join us we'll be at mailys from 12.30 on sunday!
No sarcasm buddy, keep the pressure on the council until we get what was promised.

Re: Brandywell Stadium Development

Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2016 7:57 pm
by Kellz
Fair play to the Derry News. Today's paper is well worth buying to see the P.R. Mess the Council etc. Have made of this. Not notifying the Press about yesterday's turning of the Sod nonsense then stonewalling questions. Couldn't make it up.

Re: Brandywell Stadium Development

Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2016 8:03 pm
by Andy Bernard
Our club are stonewalling the fans. I will be stonewalling the club when it comes to their requests to buy tickets and merchandise.

Re: Brandywell Stadium Development

Posted: Fri Nov 25, 2016 12:42 am
by stevebradley
Andy Bernard wrote:Our club are stonewalling the fans. I will be stonewalling the club when it comes to their requests to buy tickets and merchandise.
Don't stonewall then Andy. Leave them in no doubt as to your views and intentions !