Re: Brandywell Stadium Development
Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2016 10:14 am
Maybe the voters need to look elsewhere, as the ones we keep on electing don't seem to do much for the city?
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Re: Brandywell Stadium Development
Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2016 12:21 pm
And it looks like the gaaboys will get another £30million to upgrade stadia if Ireland get rugby world cup and this will include Celtic Park
Re: Brandywell Stadium Development
Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2016 1:28 pm
While they are laughing at their soccer neighbours down the street with their mickey mouse half built stadium.micdaflic wrote:And it looks like the gaaboys will get another £30million to upgrade stadia if Ireland get rugby world cup and this will include Celtic Park
Re: Brandywell Stadium Development
Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2016 2:28 pm
Apparently Dick Spring said Celtic Park is only a back up if Casement isn't ready.micdaflic wrote:And it looks like the gaaboys will get another £30million to upgrade stadia if Ireland get rugby world cup and this will include Celtic Park
Re: Brandywell Stadium Development
Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2016 2:52 pm
He certainly suggested it on BBC Newsline.brandyball wrote:Apparently Dick Spring said Celtic Park is only a back up if Casement isn't ready.micdaflic wrote:And it looks like the gaaboys will get another £30million to upgrade stadia if Ireland get rugby world cup and this will include Celtic Park
Needless to say the 'Derry For 2023' campaign is demanding a guarantee that Derry will be included regardless of what happens elsewhere
Re: Brandywell Stadium Development
Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2016 2:55 pm
Good question.shauna wrote:But sure what good did all that mass protest back in the 60's do cause they still built the university in coleraine and to this day magee still only gets the crumbs, roads, rail, public investment mass protest got us no were.stevebradley wrote:The difference is that we just take it and put up with it.shauna wrote: Imagine the uproar there would have been in belfast if the windsor park or ravenhill redevelopments had consisted of one third of a stand being built.
The Derry of the 1960s that used to stand up and fight for itself sadly seems to be long gone. The city seems to have had any fight knocked out of it.
Seriously - look at the long list of sh!t we have to put up with in Derry. Roads, rail, University, Brandywell, Jobs, public investment etc etc. Yet when was the last time a proper battle or fuss was made over anything ? I don't mean people like Martina Anderson saying she'll 'Stand up for Derry' a month before an election. Compare to the 1960s when something like 15,000 people from the City formed a cavalcade up to Stormont to protest at the University decision. You wouldn't even get a tenth of that for a protest in the city now.
Derry doesn't fight for itself any more - hence it gets fcuk all. That's not going to change until the city starts to stand up for itself and kick back. That's my genuine view on it all anyway, and even just typing about it makes me cross
I guess the difference is that protesting in the 1960s was never going to achieve anything, as we were a Catholic city under 'a protestant parliament for a protestant people'. Although there was a straight line between protests in Derry in the 1960s and the 30 years of Troubles that followed - without which we'd probably all still be under that apartheid state !
Nowadays Nationalists have a share of power and Unionists can't be so blatant in ignoring the city. So proper protests would stand a much better chance of working (I hope!).
Just look at how rattled Sinn Fein has been by the election of 2 People Before Profit MLAs in nationalist heartlands.
Re: Brandywell Stadium Development
Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2016 3:49 pm
Whilst the Brandywell is about to get a third of a new stand and a plastic pitch, the council is moving ahead with plans to spend at least £12.5m on a new "state of the art" Templemore Sports Complex "...which will attract visitors to the city and the region".
With new stadium build costs averaging at about £1,000 per seat, you'd get yourself the start of a great mixed-use civic stadium for £15m (= the Complex money plus the funds from the Brandywell Stadium part of that development). And that's before making the case to Stormont for further funding, or pursuing other avenues.
Can anyone explain to me why both redevelopments couldn't have been combined to create a much better mixed use civic stadium facility at the Complex site ?
http://www.derryjournal.com/news/busine ... -1-7680013
With new stadium build costs averaging at about £1,000 per seat, you'd get yourself the start of a great mixed-use civic stadium for £15m (= the Complex money plus the funds from the Brandywell Stadium part of that development). And that's before making the case to Stormont for further funding, or pursuing other avenues.
Can anyone explain to me why both redevelopments couldn't have been combined to create a much better mixed use civic stadium facility at the Complex site ?
http://www.derryjournal.com/news/busine ... -1-7680013
Re: Brandywell Stadium Development
Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2016 4:15 pm
Anybody know how much it would cost the council to finish the other two thirds of the stand in one go, surely it would be cheaper in the long run to finish the stand entirely when the contractor's are already on site.
Re: Brandywell Stadium Development
Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2016 5:11 pm
Greyhounds planning a meetin at the brandywell for the 24th nov. The date its suppose to close, still dont think this is goin to be in anyway straight forward, would like to be wrong
Re: Brandywell Stadium Development
Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2016 5:40 pm
I'm fairly sure POD said at one of the supporters meetings that when the work started all of the stand would be built, as the money to do that was in place.shauna wrote:Anybody know how much it would cost the council to finish the other two thirds of the stand in one go, surely it would be cheaper in the long run to finish the stand entirely when the contractor's are already on site.
Re: Brandywell Stadium Development
Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2016 5:49 pm
Was the planning permission for the whole length of the stand, or just the initial phase ?pmac wrote:I'm fairly sure POD said at one of the supporters meetings that when the work started all of the stand would be built, as the money to do that was in place.shauna wrote:Anybody know how much it would cost the council to finish the other two thirds of the stand in one go, surely it would be cheaper in the long run to finish the stand entirely when the contractor's are already on site.
Re: Brandywell Stadium Development
Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2016 5:53 pm
Contract was for 6.44m so maybe it will be done.pmac wrote:I'm fairly sure POD said at one of the supporters meetings that when the work started all of the stand would be built, as the money to do that was in place.shauna wrote:Anybody know how much it would cost the council to finish the other two thirds of the stand in one go, surely it would be cheaper in the long run to finish the stand entirely when the contractor's are already on site.
Re: Brandywell Stadium Development
Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2016 11:21 am
If the work had started when originally planned, then the stand would have been done in phases.
You would like to think that after all this time, there would be enough funding in place to build the stand in one go.
You would like to think that after all this time, there would be enough funding in place to build the stand in one go.
Re: Brandywell Stadium Development
Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2016 2:39 pm
Building the full-length stand all at once would make sense from every angle. Where would the money come from though ?KEVK wrote:If the work had started when originally planned, then the stand would have been done in phases.
You would like to think that after all this time, there would be enough funding in place to build the stand in one go.
The Council haven't allocated any extra funding as far as I'm aware (I could well be wrong), and don't seem to be of a mind to put more into the project.
Derry City FC have nothing to put in themselves.
That leaves Stormont as the only potential source IMO - with their £36m regional stadium fund. But surely there'd have been media reports or an announcement if they'd allocated extra to the Brandywell ?
Re: Brandywell Stadium Development
Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2016 3:43 pm
Do any of the other parties getting their stadia rebuilt/revamped put in any of their own money?
Re: Brandywell Stadium Development
Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2016 10:09 am
Dear jesus the new stand were getting looks awful. Tiny. £6.4 million for about 1000 seater stand, Move the dog track to the showgrounds and a plastic pitch for 6.4 million doesnt sound value for money. Just do the job right ffs council. We were told it was a 3600 seater stand. Can't wait to see eddie mahon's column in the journal lol.
Re: Brandywell Stadium Development
Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2016 10:44 am
There seems so many versions of the truth at the moment,ned1987 wrote:Dear jesus the new stand were getting looks awful. Tiny. £6.4 million for about 1000 seater stand, Move the dog track to the showgrounds and a plastic pitch for 6.4 million doesnt sound value for money. Just do the job right ffs council. We were told it was a 3600 seater stand. Can't wait to see eddie mahon's column in the journal lol.
Does anyone actually know for sure if its the middle part of the stand
or the entire stand, and what will the full capacity be?
I would assume what ever we end up with at the end of this phase is what we will be stuck
with for the next 50 years
Re: Brandywell Stadium Development
Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2016 10:51 am
It's in the Derry news today the council have put out a revised picture of the new stand and it's tiny. 1000 seats just.gary wrote:There seems so many versions of the truth at the moment,ned1987 wrote:Dear jesus the new stand were getting looks awful. Tiny. £6.4 million for about 1000 seater stand, Move the dog track to the showgrounds and a plastic pitch for 6.4 million doesnt sound value for money. Just do the job right ffs council. We were told it was a 3600 seater stand. Can't wait to see eddie mahon's column in the journal lol.
Does anyone actually know for sure if its the middle part of the stand
or the entire stand, and what will the full capacity be?
I would assume what ever we end up with at the end of this phase is what we will be stuck
with for the next 50 years
Re: Brandywell Stadium Development
Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2016 11:26 am
Thats so dissapointing i feared the worst as far as the new stand goes but hoped all the rumours were false and it would be completely built but this picture in the derry news finally confirms the worst, a stadium with a seated capacity of just over 3,000 for the next 50 years is our lot.ned1987 wrote:It's in the Derry news today the council have put out a revised picture of the new stand and it's tiny. 1000 seats just.gary wrote:There seems so many versions of the truth at the moment,ned1987 wrote:Dear jesus the new stand were getting looks awful. Tiny. £6.4 million for about 1000 seater stand, Move the dog track to the showgrounds and a plastic pitch for 6.4 million doesnt sound value for money. Just do the job right ffs council. We were told it was a 3600 seater stand. Can't wait to see eddie mahon's column in the journal lol.
Does anyone actually know for sure if its the middle part of the stand
or the entire stand, and what will the full capacity be?
I would assume what ever we end up with at the end of this phase is what we will be stuck
with for the next 50 years
Re: Brandywell Stadium Development
Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2016 2:08 pm
Could someone show a link to the picture