Derry City v Galway United Match Thread

[attack.attack.attack]

I have seen the video and this is a storm in a teacup. Yes, said player is being dragged out of the toilet. Yes, the video has a caption that makes an accusation that is out there with Pluto but is it true? Otherwise, heads shouldn't roll because the team went out for a few pints. We all have gone out for a pint at the weekend (those of us who drink) and may have had one too many. He may need to apologise to the bar and staff but heads rolling is extreme. When we were successful our players were out every Saturday in The Metro but no-one batted an eye lid. As for Lynch doing some punditry on Radio Ulster, what is the harm? People today seem like they are searching for reasons to be annoyed.

If the players were in for training at the weekend Lynch wouldn't be doing his media work which he'll be getting paid for too. Is there a conflict of interest here. Or is the problem we cant use Dungiven at the weekends

Re Owenbeg- it seems fairly quiet on a Saturday morning bar if the hurlers have a game in the afternoon (which only uses the main pitch) an interesting sidenote good to see the footballers are training in Celtic Park on week nights

[attack.attack.attack]

In this video, Gavin Whyte says 'tell the gaffer he's a wan*er' while completely blocked. Never mind the fact that he is not fit & is earning a fortune. I won't even discuss the caption.

Happy to be proven wrong, but a proper unlikable bunch already.

[marcoloco]

Shambles. I wonder can they terminate his contract?

Sunday morning sessions incoming...

[chucho]

Where is this video?

[candystriper 90]

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[attack.attack.attack]

Where is this video?

I would share if I could. However, I saw someone posted it on 'League of Ireland Group Chat' on Facebook - you may find it there.

[PauliAlonso]

In this video, Gavin Whyte says 'tell the gaffer he's a wan*er' while completely blocked. Never mind the fact that he is not fit & is earning a fortune. I won't even discuss the caption.

Happy to be proven wrong, but a proper unlikable bunch already.

A line has been drawn, definitely. TL didn't set targets or promise anything along the lines of titles or performances, but he guaranteed standards. He needs to set an example here.

[attack.attack.attack]

In this video, Gavin Whyte says 'tell the gaffer he's a wan*er' while completely blocked. Never mind the fact that he is not fit & is earning a fortune. I won't even discuss the caption.

Happy to be proven wrong, but a proper unlikable bunch already.

A line has been drawn, definitely. TL didn't set targets or promise anything along the lines of titles or performances, but he guaranteed standards. He needs to set an example here.

100% - couldn't agree more.

[marcoloco]

Where is this video?

All over social media...

[TenaciousDee]

Will any of the local media be asking the manager about the video and why players are out getting drunk at weekends when we are bottom of the table?

In your job are your weekend plans monitored? Then why should their's be? It's no-one's business what people get up to on their weekend. We don't have a game till Saturday, Danny Mullan was celebrating his birthday and the players wanted to mark it as I believe it was his 30th. Granted they probably should have booked a private room to stay away from prying eyes but the person to really blame here Is the person who filmed this incident. He clearly did it for the clicks and to lower the tone around the club.

Is your issue that the players were drunk or at the bottom of the table? Were you this angry when our players were in the metro the night of winning the 2006 League Cup (A Monday) when they had a match against Shels the following Friday? I am willing to bet you weren't because we were winning.

[marcoloco]

Will any of the local media be asking the manager about the video and why players are out getting drunk at weekends when we are bottom of the table?

In your job are your weekend plans monitored? Then why should their's be? It's no-one's business what people get up to on their weekend. We don't have a game till Saturday, Danny Mullan was celebrating his birthday and the players wanted to mark it as I believe it was his 30th. Granted they probably should have booked a private room to stay away from prying eyes but the person to really blame here Is the person who filmed this incident. He clearly did it for the clicks and to lower the tone around the club.

Is your issue that the players were drunk or at the bottom of the table? Were you this angry when our players were in the metro the night of winning the 2006 League Cup (A Monday) when they had a match against Shels the following Friday? I am willing to bet you weren't because we were winning.

But Dee, surely all that stuff you mention is irrelevant? - it makes no odds what went on 20 years ago, just as it makes no odds who filmed the video or their intentions.

The issue here is a club employee was drunk at the weekend, and slagging off his boss. Nothing else matters. It happens in every profession where's there's staff and management involved. It's just a shame that he's a new signing and we're bottom of the league but that is also a side story.

Didn't Lieciester players do something similar on their mid season break before Christmas. Ironically they were also sat at the bottom of the league and had just lost a league game the night before. I don't think they were as crude as our player, but disciplinary action is absolutely necessary on this occasion.

Players and managers have standards to maintain just as fans do too. When someone steps out of line and their behaviour falls below the expected standards then an appropriate action should be taken. It's then up to the club how that process is followed and applied.

[TenaciousDee]

He was drunk, whoop de do. He said the gaffer is a wanker, did he say it maliciously or playfully? People are looking for a reason to be annoyed and offended. I am sure Whyte had a meeting with Lynch this morning and explained himself. He needs to apologise to the bouncer and the other staff in the bar. And what happened twenty years ago is relevant because of we were chasing a league, no one cared

[attack.attack.attack]

He was drunk, whoop de do. He said the gaffer is a wanker, did he say it maliciously or playfully? People are looking for a reason to be annoyed and offended. I am sure Whyte had a meeting with Lynch this morning and explained himself. He needs to apologise to the bouncer and the other staff in the bar. And what happened twenty years ago is relevant because of we were chasing a league, no one cared

Let's not go glib. There is a big difference between allowing nights out when winning, in comparison with when not. Of course players are allowed a night out when they're winning trophies - it's standard practice. Comparing 2006 to this is absolutely hilarious & a non runner.

They are full-time professional footballers, being paid handsomely by Derry City - the guy videoing didn't call the gaffer a 'wan*er' or do what the caption said (unconfirmed). Why would my weekend plans be monitored? I am not a full-time professional athlete. I do my work well Monday-Friday, these guys are not - they are supposed to be professional athletes. They are not performing in their job roles, in fact, vastly underperforming. Even if they were doing the business, Gavin Whyte acting like a degenerate is still not acceptable.

Context here is important, which is that no other credible club in the league would enable a team 'blow out' 5 games into a season, in the position we're in & with many players not at the races in terms of fitness. Duff or Bradley wouldn't even contemplate it - that's the difference.

[marcoloco]

He was drunk, whoop de do. He said the gaffer is a wanker, did he say it maliciously or playfully? People are looking for a reason to be annoyed and offended. I am sure Whyte had a meeting with Lynch this morning and explained himself. He needs to apologise to the bouncer and the other staff in the bar. And what happened twenty years ago is relevant because of we were chasing a league, no one cared

Im sure he's regretting his actions. An apology to the manager and staff may be all that is necessary. As I suggested, that's up to the Club how they deal with it. The irony is that all this has done is focus greater attention on his performances now moving forward. He'll lose the supporters if he's not performing on the pitch and not looking after himself off the pitch.

I'm also not so sure that 'no one cared' what players got up to back then. There was less attention due to the lack of videos and phones but i'm sure lots of people cared. Generally speaking though, i'd say standards now are higher on and off the pitch to 20 to 30 years back.

[barry]

The problem we have here Dee is an overweight player who is already part of the 'fat camp', who we can't get fit. He's a top earner, theres a level of professionalism required and being in this state is not acceptable. It is of course intensified due to the our recent performances, league position and social media profile that wasn't as common 20 years ago.

As a professional (I am one) in any walk of life, it is important how you conduct yourself at and away from the workplace. I've no issues with a few pints, but it's the timing and player in question that raises eyebrows.. I've no doubt the managers a w*nker comment is said with tongue in cheek.

There was questions raised with regards Whytes professionalism and hunger prior to signing. The manager needs to address it and Whyte can silence everyone by getting fit and turning in performances.

[magspat]

Whyte should be booted out of Derry City immediately contract terminated plenty controversy in his past by the look of things.

[TenaciousDee]

Duff or Bradley wouldn't even contemplate it - that's the difference.

The fact you believe that, you clearly haven't a notion what has been going on at Rovers the last two and a bit years with one of their top players.

[attack.attack.attack]

Duff or Bradley wouldn't even contemplate it - that's the difference.

The fact you believe that, you clearly haven't a notion what has been going on at Rovers the last two and a bit years with one of their top players.

Your reply is ignorant of context (a night out and poor conduct 5 games into a season, bottom of the table - with the player in question just signed, earning a fortune, and is not in shape). My point was: would Stephen Bradley or Damien Duff allow their team(s) to go boozing 5 games into a season? No.

Further, despite your presumptiveness, I know exactly what has been going on with Jack Byrne (you could've mentioned something else, but you brought him up). Do you know what the different is Dee? Rovers still won 4 in a row. Shels have went bust, spent years in the first division, and still won a league title before us, only 3 years after promotion.

In addition, Richie Towell and Liam Burt were shown the door by Bradley for acting up. J Byrne's specific case is a matter for Rovers - it hasn't stopped them winning, or reaching European league phase football. So I'm not sure what your point is.

[TenaciousDee]

So again, this is more about the fact we are losing. If we were winning leagues, would people be more acceptable? Byrne, who you have mentioned is on a fortune and hasn't been fit but still goes out. Why should Rovers winning four in a row mask this?

[attack.attack.attack]

So again, this is more about the fact we are losing. If we were winning leagues, would people be more acceptable? Byrne, who you have mentioned is on a fortune and hasn't been fit but still goes out. Why should Rovers winning four in a row mask this?

Of course it's about the fact that we are losing, after spending a fortune on finished articles (I won't even open that can of worms).

We haven't won a league in nearly 30 years. Rovers have won 6 in the last 14 years. It is their prerogative what they do with Jack Byrne. It's not about masking things, coventional wisdom is that footballers earn their nights out. It's poor optically when you're not winning & is poor form - not many people would argue against that. If it was a Birthday party, book a venue privately - as you stated - that was a balls up.

We signed Gavin Whyte to be one of our main players, making the difference & taking us closer to the league. His behaviour & general condition would suggest that will be a stretch.

It's only opinions Dee & we have differing viewpoints. The sun will rise in the morning (I hope).