Derry City v Galway United Match Thread

[attack.attack.attack]

They get picked up at Belfast, I believe.

That is most concerning, this is not Saturday Morning League. It suggests these individuals are not fully committed to the city, they won't get the sense of what it means to people in the city, and are not rooted in the community. Hence, we are operating in direct contradiction with the Raison D'etre of the club.

In addition, it bolsters the argument that these recruited players in question are only interested in one thing - and it is not busting a gut, or winning trophies for Derry City. Otherwise, they would've signed for Belfast clubs. Therefore, an inference can be made that Lynch sanctioned this logistical arrangement in order to secure their signatures, accompanied of course with impressive salaries. This strategy will backfire, as it did last season.

I am happy to be proven wrong - but if people are allowed to half-ass it (e.g. Belfast lads travelling to Dungiven Mon-Thur & then only being in Derry once every 2 weeks for a home game, players having coaching academies in Belfast, Fats double jobbing with a game clash this Saturday & Jackie also helping with Institute) then it does not bode well, I'm afraid - their minds are elsewhere.

[bt47red]

Were players out on the rip this weekend???

[Keyser Soze]

Were players out on the rip this weekend???

Maybe not just this weekend. Looking at the performances, who's to say it's not every weekend.

The manager needs to address this, and I would say make a statement about it. We were led to believe he was an absolute stickler for effort, work rate etc. He said pre season that anyone who didn't apply themselves wouldn't be here. Yet we have players drunk at the weekend. Embarrassing themselves and the club on videos. All while they collect massive wages and underperform on the pitch.

[attack.attack.attack]

Were players out on the rip this weekend???

Maybe not just this weekend. Looking at the performances, who's to say it's not every weekend.

The manager needs to address this, and I would say make a statement about it. We were led to believe he was an absolute stickler for effort, work rate etc. He said pre season that anyone who didn't apply themselves wouldn't be here. Yet we have players drunk at the weekend. Embarrassing themselves and the club on videos. All while they collect massive wages and underperform on the pitch.

If that is the case, which is speculative, one could say no smoke without fire - then this 'process' won't last long.

[magspat]

I don't think TL should be on summarising on radio ulster Saturday afternoon he has full time at Derry he should be living in Derry along with all players who should also be based close to the city How do they meet up on match days coming from all over the place, was it not a policy of Derrycity that all players had to be based in the city I know it early days yet but I'm beginning to have my doubts about TL.

[brandyball]

Players have personalised weekend programmes. They are employees, and most of us work 5 days per week and have days off. Players do double session Mon - Thurs and are in from.09.00 -16.30, which is different to Higgins regime.

Do personalised weekend programmes include getting plastered in 5 star hotels?

Fans will not be happy when this news spreads, especially with guys who look unfit at it stands. They can't come here, lift 2 or 3k per week and then be on the lash, whilst we are bottom of the league. It's unprofessional and has to stop.

Are the players getting " plastered" based in Belfast or are they living in Derry? Why not name & shame so we all know?

[magspat]

Did anyone see these players out getting plastered or is this a rumor but I will tell you one thing if this true heads should roll and that includes the manager don't take Derry supporters as mugs we around to long to be taken for fool's

[brandyball]

Did anyone see these players out getting plastered or is this a rumor but I will tell you one thing if this true heads should roll and that includes the manager don't take Derry supporters as mugs we around to long to be taken for fool's

That's why I think they should be named and shamed (if true)

[TenaciousDee]

I have seen the video and this is a storm in a teacup. Yes, said player is being dragged out of the toilet. Yes, the video has a caption that makes an accusation that is out there with Pluto but is it true? Otherwise, heads shouldn't roll because the team went out for a few pints. We all have gone out for a pint at the weekend (those of us who drink) and may have had one too many. He may need to apologise to the bar and staff but heads rolling is extreme. When we were successful our players were out every Saturday in The Metro but no-one batted an eye lid. As for Lynch doing some punditry on Radio Ulster, what is the harm? People today seem like they are searching for reasons to be annoyed.

[bt47red]

I have seen the video and this is a storm in a teacup. Yes, said player is being dragged out of the toilet. Yes, the video has a caption that makes an accusation that is out there with Pluto but is it true? Otherwise, heads shouldn't roll because the team went out for a few pints. We all have gone out for a pint at the weekend (those of us who drink) and may have had one too many. He may need to apologise to the bar and staff but heads rolling is extreme. When we were successful our players were out every Saturday in The Metro but no-one batted an eye lid. As for Lynch doing some punditry on Radio Ulster, what is the harm? People today seem like they are searching for reasons to be annoyed.

100% Dee. However, i just think it leaves us (the fans) asking questions.. we all want 100% commitment from the players on and off the field, lets hope it was an isolated incident.

We are a full time football club and lets hope that things start to click soon. I don’t want my manager sitting doing co commentary for glenavon vs cliftonville when there are other things to be at…..

[magspat]

Yes sir iam annoyed,Annoyed at what is happening on the pitch and all this other shit floating about about players on the rip if true.

[attack.attack.attack]

I have seen the video and this is a storm in a teacup. Yes, said player is being dragged out of the toilet. Yes, the video has a caption that makes an accusation that is out there with Pluto but is it true? Otherwise, heads shouldn't roll because the team went out for a few pints. We all have gone out for a pint at the weekend (those of us who drink) and may have had one too many. He may need to apologise to the bar and staff but heads rolling is extreme. When we were successful our players were out every Saturday in The Metro but no-one batted an eye lid. As for Lynch doing some punditry on Radio Ulster, what is the harm? People today seem like they are searching for reasons to be annoyed.

I understand the team going for a few pints & the bonding that goes with it. However, time and a place aka when we're doing well, this is common sense. The season has only started & it is evidently clear several members of our squad are simply not fit. Gavin Whyte has a lot of work to do, and if precedent means anything, he enjoys a night out: https://www.skysports.com/football/news ... a-lewd-act

The thing enabling them to go on the lash in the first place is Lynch giving them the weekends off. Translation: Hometime for half the squad & manager (exaggerated, but you get the point).

As indicated by both Mitchell & Lynch, the players are given 'recovery plans' to do over the weekend (Lynch has opted for this, instead of traditional Sat or Sun recovery sessions in person) in regards to recovery. I'm sure skulling pints does not feature on said 'recovery plans'.

Sitting bottom of the table, the weekends should be utilised more effectively. Go drinking & have weekends off when we're at the races.

[marcoloco]

There a few things going on here.

1. The Manager doing occasional tv or radio work? No big deal at all. - If he's doing it every weekend and its proves to be a conflict with his main job, then maybe then that becomes an issue. But I can't imagine him letting that happen so i'm not concerned. If anything its helpful if he's watching games / players.

2. Players on the lash. I personally thought things had moved on from those days - but maybe i'm wrong. Today your diet, sleep, rest, recovery and training should all be under control. Plus it just adds unnecessary pressure. Players are professionals and must take responsibility. I've not seen it so im only talking generally here when I say there's a time and place for bonding and its probably not now.

3. All of the above would not be getting the same coverage if we were sat on 9 points. But we're not so it is getting air time.

[haymaker89]

Players have personalised weekend programmes. They are employees, and most of us work 5 days per week and have days off. Players do double session Mon - Thurs and are in from.09.00 -16.30, which is different to Higgins regime.

Don’t fall for that double session nonsense… they get breakfast and train get lunch and train… they are professionals for gods sake… so they get weekend programs… where does getting hammered in that come into play… the weekend off is a farce…. That’s all for the boss to get his side hussle

[brandyball]

I have seen the video and this is a storm in a teacup. Yes, said player is being dragged out of the toilet. Yes, the video has a caption that makes an accusation that is out there with Pluto but is it true? Otherwise, heads shouldn't roll because the team went out for a few pints. We all have gone out for a pint at the weekend (those of us who drink) and may have had one too many. He may need to apologise to the bar and staff but heads rolling is extreme. When we were successful our players were out every Saturday in The Metro but no-one batted an eye lid. As for Lynch doing some punditry on Radio Ulster, what is the harm? People today seem like they are searching for reasons to be annoyed.

I understand the team going for a few pints & the bonding that goes with it. However, time and a place aka when we're doing well, this is common sense. The season has only started & it is evidently clear several members of our squad are simply not fit. Gavin Whyte has a lot of work to do, and if precedent means anything, he enjoys a night out: https://www.skysports.com/football/news ... a-lewd-act

The thing enabling them to go on the lash in the first place is Lynch giving them the weekends off. Translation: Hometime for half the squad & manager (exaggerated, but you get the point).

As indicated by both Mitchell & Lynch, the players are given 'recovery plans' to do over the weekend (Lynch has opted for this, instead of traditional Sat or Sun recovery sessions in person) in regards to recovery. I'm sure skulling pints does not feature on said 'recovery plans'.

Sitting bottom of the table, the weekends should be utilised more effectively. Go drinking & have weekends off when we're at the races.

Jeez who authorised Whyte"s signing?

[Paddydcfc2010]

Who's the player in question. Why is it such a big secret? For all the money spent we must be the least professional club in the league. On and off the pitch.

[forza]

Take their dartboard and their fancy breakfasts away until they buck their ideas up. Satellite players should be a thing of the past. Play here live here. Perosnalised plans is just another daft idea for the madness that is working from home. Go to work and do your jobs

[Keyser Soze]

Will any of the local media be asking the manager about the video and why players are out getting drunk at weekends when we are bottom of the table?

Will players be getting fined? Most professional football clubs have a procedure for fining players for indiscretions.

Who is monitoring that the players are all doing their weekend plans?

[forza]

I have seen the video and this is a storm in a teacup. Yes, said player is being dragged out of the toilet. Yes, the video has a caption that makes an accusation that is out there with Pluto but is it true? Otherwise, heads shouldn't roll because the team went out for a few pints. We all have gone out for a pint at the weekend (those of us who drink) and may have had one too many. He may need to apologise to the bar and staff but heads rolling is extreme. When we were successful our players were out every Saturday in The Metro but no-one batted an eye lid. As for Lynch doing some punditry on Radio Ulster, what is the harm? People today seem like they are searching for reasons to be annoyed.

If the players were in for training at the weekend Lynch wouldn't be doing his media work which he'll be getting paid for too. Is there a conflict of interest here. Or is the problem we cant use Dungiven at the weekends

[bt47red]

I have seen the video and this is a storm in a teacup. Yes, said player is being dragged out of the toilet. Yes, the video has a caption that makes an accusation that is out there with Pluto but is it true? Otherwise, heads shouldn't roll because the team went out for a few pints. We all have gone out for a pint at the weekend (those of us who drink) and may have had one too many. He may need to apologise to the bar and staff but heads rolling is extreme. When we were successful our players were out every Saturday in The Metro but no-one batted an eye lid. As for Lynch doing some punditry on Radio Ulster, what is the harm? People today seem like they are searching for reasons to be annoyed.

If the players were in for training at the weekend Lynch wouldn't be doing his media work which he'll be getting paid for too. Is there a conflict of interest here. Or is the problem we cant use Dungiven at the weekends

Re Owenbeg- it seems fairly quiet on a Saturday morning bar if the hurlers have a game in the afternoon (which only uses the main pitch) an interesting sidenote good to see the footballers are training in Celtic Park on week nights