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Re: Squad 2024

Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2024 5:19 pm
by Keyser Soze
Will be interesting to see if he has been brought in to play RB or CB?

Re: Squad 2024

Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2024 6:24 pm
by brandyball
DeeDerry1975 wrote: Wed Aug 21, 2024 3:11 pm New signing

https://www.derrycityfc.net/2024/08/cit ... or-run-in/
Journey Man.

Re: Squad 2024

Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2024 7:31 pm
by TenaciousDee
brandyball wrote: Wed Aug 21, 2024 6:24 pm
DeeDerry1975 wrote: Wed Aug 21, 2024 3:11 pm New signing

https://www.derrycityfc.net/2024/08/cit ... or-run-in/
Journey Man.
John Cofie was a journey man. Wisdom as a young player he was loaned out to 4 clubs in a five year period to get experience, then his next move was a permanent move to a club he stayed at for four years. This makes a journeyman now? Come on.

Re: Squad 2024

Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2024 8:14 pm
by mokendismucker
brandyball wrote: Wed Aug 21, 2024 6:24 pm
DeeDerry1975 wrote: Wed Aug 21, 2024 3:11 pm New signing

https://www.derrycityfc.net/2024/08/cit ... or-run-in/
Journey Man.
Good one…….how to greet a new player, who you most probably have never seen, and, certainly don’t know in any capacity that matters.

Re: Squad 2024

Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2024 8:28 pm
by brandyball
Been with 8 or 9 clubs, had trial with Salford and wasn't signed so in my opinion makes him a journey man, feel free to disagree.

https://www.facebook.com/share/p/AL6sLtoPpARE1r1T/

Re: Squad 2024

Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2024 9:01 pm
by TenaciousDee
According to that screenshot you sent he has been with 6 so yeah, I'll disagree. God forbid too that an unemployed football goes on trial to get a job.
brandyball wrote: Wed Aug 21, 2024 8:28 pm Been with 8 or 9 clubs, had trial with Salford and wasn't signed so in my opinion makes him a journey man, feel free to disagree.
https://www.facebook.com/share/p/AL6sLtoPpARE1r1T/

Re: Squad 2024

Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2024 9:03 pm
by brandyball
TenaciousDee wrote: Wed Aug 21, 2024 9:01 pm According to that screenshot you sent he has been with 6 so yeah, I'll disagree.
brandyball wrote: Wed Aug 21, 2024 8:28 pm Been with 8 or 9 clubs, had trial with Salford and wasn't signed so in my opinion makes him a journey man, feel free to disagree.

https://www.facebook.com/share/p/AL6sLtoPpARE1r1T/
Starting with Bradford ending in Warrington(9)

Re: Squad 2024

Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2024 9:04 pm
by TenaciousDee
You counted Derby twice. In that case will we also add D&D teams to our journey men players if you are counting his school boy days at Bradford? I also think you have counted Liverpool twice too.

Re: Squad 2024

Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2024 9:14 pm
by Keyser Soze
Hasn't played in a full football season since 2020/21 ?

Seems a strange signing, but will wait to reserve judgement until he has played.

Re: Squad 2024

Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2024 9:17 pm
by TenaciousDee
Keyser Soze wrote: Wed Aug 21, 2024 9:14 pm Hasn't played in a full football season since 2020/21 ?

Seems a strange signing, but will wait to reserve judgement until he has played.
He was stabbed in Liverpool in 2020. As the league returned after lockdown he was visiting family and was attacked near the home. He came back into the Derby side the next season but wasn't the same physically or mentally. He went away and recovered and started getting back to football at the start of this year I think it was.

Re: Squad 2024

Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2024 9:20 pm
by brandyball
TenaciousDee wrote: Wed Aug 21, 2024 9:04 pm You counted Derby twice. In that case will we also add D&D teams to our journey men players if you are counting his school boy days at Bradford? I also think you have counted Liverpool twice too.
Taken from Liverpool Echo article about his Salford Trial

The right-back is seemingly hoping to return to the Football League and secure a deal with Salford, which would be the ninth club in his career. Wisdom is currently on trial with the League Two outfit, owned by Manchester United legends David Beckham, Ryan Giggs, Gary Neville, Phil Neville, Paul Scholes and Nicky Butt.

Re: Squad 2024

Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2024 9:24 pm
by TenaciousDee
brandyball wrote: Wed Aug 21, 2024 9:03 pm Starting with Bradford ending in Warrington(9)
So Bradford ending in Warrington makes (8).

Re: Squad 2024

Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2024 9:27 pm
by TenaciousDee
brandyball wrote: Wed Aug 21, 2024 9:20 pm
TenaciousDee wrote: Wed Aug 21, 2024 9:04 pm You counted Derby twice. In that case will we also add D&D teams to our journey men players if you are counting his school boy days at Bradford? I also think you have counted Liverpool twice too.
Taken from Liverpool Echo article about his Salford Trial

The right-back is seemingly hoping to return to the Football League and secure a deal with Salford, which would be the ninth club in his career. Wisdom is currently on trial with the League Two outfit, owned by Manchester United legends David Beckham, Ryan Giggs, Gary Neville, Phil Neville, Paul Scholes and Nicky Butt.
In fairness they are probably counting his two trial matches at Birmingham in PL2 two years ago.

Re: Squad 2024

Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2024 9:42 pm
by mokendismucker
brandyball wrote: Wed Aug 21, 2024 9:03 pm
TenaciousDee wrote: Wed Aug 21, 2024 9:01 pm According to that screenshot you sent he has been with 6 so yeah, I'll disagree.
brandyball wrote: Wed Aug 21, 2024 8:28 pm Been with 8 or 9 clubs, had trial with Salford and wasn't signed so in my opinion makes him a journey man, feel free to disagree.

https://www.facebook.com/share/p/AL6sLtoPpARE1r1T/
Starting with Bradford ending in Warrington(9)
Senior career 7 clubs including Warrington.

Re: Squad 2024

Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2024 9:44 pm
by brandyball
TenaciousDee wrote: Wed Aug 21, 2024 9:27 pm
brandyball wrote: Wed Aug 21, 2024 9:20 pm
TenaciousDee wrote: Wed Aug 21, 2024 9:04 pm You counted Derby twice. In that case will we also add D&D teams to our journey men players if you are counting his school boy days at Bradford? I also think you have counted Liverpool twice too.
Taken from Liverpool Echo article about his Salford Trial

The right-back is seemingly hoping to return to the Football League and secure a deal with Salford, which would be the ninth club in his career. Wisdom is currently on trial with the League Two outfit, owned by Manchester United legends David Beckham, Ryan Giggs, Gary Neville, Phil Neville, Paul Scholes and Nicky Butt.
In fairness they are probably counting his two trial matches at Birmingham in PL2 two years ago.
Any idea why Salford didn't give him a contract?

Re: Squad 2024

Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2024 9:53 pm
by dcfc_jp_1989
brandyball wrote: Wed Aug 21, 2024 9:20 pm
TenaciousDee wrote: Wed Aug 21, 2024 9:04 pm You counted Derby twice. In that case will we also add D&D teams to our journey men players if you are counting his school boy days at Bradford? I also think you have counted Liverpool twice too.
Taken from Liverpool Echo article about his Salford Trial

The right-back is seemingly hoping to return to the Football League and secure a deal with Salford, which would be the ninth club in his career. Wisdom is currently on trial with the League Two outfit, owned by Manchester United legends David Beckham, Ryan Giggs, Gary Neville, Phil Neville, Paul Scholes and Nicky Butt.
According to Transfermkt we are his 7th club & 4th permanent club. Whilst at Liverpool he had 4 different loan moves in 4 years before getting a permanent transfer to Derby where he stayed for 4yrs & made over 100 appearances I'm not exactly sure how that constitutes a journey man.

As Dee has already alluded to he never properly recovered from his stabbing & reading up on him he took some time out to get himself fit again & found his way back into football with Warrington which has given him his hunger back for full-time football

Re: Squad 2024

Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2024 10:50 pm
by brandyball
dcfc_jp_1989 wrote: Wed Aug 21, 2024 9:53 pm
brandyball wrote: Wed Aug 21, 2024 9:20 pm
TenaciousDee wrote: Wed Aug 21, 2024 9:04 pm You counted Derby twice. In that case will we also add D&D teams to our journey men players if you are counting his school boy days at Bradford? I also think you have counted Liverpool twice too.
Taken from Liverpool Echo article about his Salford Trial

The right-back is seemingly hoping to return to the Football League and secure a deal with Salford, which would be the ninth club in his career. Wisdom is currently on trial with the League Two outfit, owned by Manchester United legends David Beckham, Ryan Giggs, Gary Neville, Phil Neville, Paul Scholes and Nicky Butt.
According to Transfermkt we are his 7th club & 4th permanent club. Whilst at Liverpool he had 4 different loan moves in 4 years before getting a permanent transfer to Derby where he stayed for 4yrs & made over 100 appearances I'm not exactly sure how that constitutes a journey man.

As Dee has already alluded to he never properly recovered from his stabbing & reading up on him he took some time out to get himself fit again & found his way back into football with Warrington which has given him his hunger back for full-time football
Left Warrington then had a full pre Season with Salford, who didn't think he was worth a contract(?)

Re: Squad 2024

Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2024 10:52 pm
by rodgers
Didn't Danny Seaborne arrive after some sort of attack as well?

I hope Boyce doesn't go as a result. It feels a bit like the time Kenny signed Kerrea Gilbert for Rovers.

I think he has a good pedigree and isn't a journeyman but the short term nature isn't inspiring particularly if it leads to more committed players leaving. At his best level, he ought to be miles above the LOI.

Re: Squad 2024

Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2024 11:14 pm
by candystriper 90
rodgers wrote: Wed Aug 21, 2024 10:52 pm Didn't Danny Seaborne arrive after some sort of attack as well?

I hope Boyce doesn't go as a result. It feels a bit like the time Kenny signed Kerrea Gilbert for Rovers.

I think he has a good pedigree and isn't a journeyman but the short term nature isn't inspiring particularly if it leads to more committed players leaving. At his best level, he ought to be miles above the LOI.
Brandywell is the safest place to be. Won't witness too many attacks there

Re: Squad 2024

Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2024 11:22 pm
by Keyser Soze
rodgers wrote: Wed Aug 21, 2024 10:52 pm Didn't Danny Seaborne arrive after some sort of attack as well?

I hope Boyce doesn't go as a result. It feels a bit like the time Kenny signed Kerrea Gilbert for Rovers.

I think he has a good pedigree and isn't a journeyman but the short term nature isn't inspiring particularly if it leads to more committed players leaving. At his best level, he ought to be miles above the LOI.
If he's a different level to LOI, how come Salford and Warrington are the latest clubs he's been involved with?

His best is obviously long behind him.

But we'll see how he does. Let's hope he's match fit.