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stevebradley wrote: Thu Apr 03, 2025 1:56 pm

brandyball wrote: Thu Apr 03, 2025 1:07 pm

TenaciousDee wrote: Thu Apr 03, 2025 9:58 am Families will likely take the vacated spots from those who will leave the Southend Stand to go to the North Stand.

When the Utras move to " The Kop" the Away fans will take their place.

I heard Tiernan Lynch is calling the new stand 'The Kop' as well.

I suspect the name wont be long sticking when people realise that it derives from Britain's military history. You may as well call it the Waterloo stand

stevebradley wrote: Thu Apr 03, 2025 1:56 pm

brandyball wrote: Thu Apr 03, 2025 1:07 pm

TenaciousDee wrote: Thu Apr 03, 2025 9:58 am

Families will likely take the vacated spots from those who will leave the Southend Stand to go to the North Stand.

When the Utras move to " The Kop" the Away fans will take their place.

I heard Tiernan Lynch is calling the new stand 'The Kop' as well.

I suspect the name wont be long sticking when people realise that it derives from Britain's military history. You may as well call it the Waterloo stand

brandyball wrote: Thu Apr 03, 2025 2:07 pm

stevebradley wrote: Thu Apr 03, 2025 1:56 pm

brandyball wrote: Thu Apr 03, 2025 1:07 pm

When the Utras move to " The Kop" the Away fans will take their place.

I heard Tiernan Lynch is calling the new stand 'The Kop' as well.

I suspect the name wont be long sticking when people realise that it derives from Britain's military history. You may as well call it the Waterloo stand

I'd be more concerned with the "Anfield" connection TBH. A caller ro Radio Foyle suggested naming it after Ryan and revert the Stadium name to " The Brandywell "

stevebradley wrote: Thu Apr 03, 2025 3:04 pm

brandyball wrote: Thu Apr 03, 2025 2:07 pm

stevebradley wrote: Thu Apr 03, 2025 1:56 pm

I heard Tiernan Lynch is calling the new stand 'The Kop' as well.

I suspect the name wont be long sticking when people realise that it derives from Britain's military history. You may as well call it the Waterloo stand

I'd be more concerned with the "Anfield" connection TBH. A caller ro Radio Foyle suggested naming it after Ryan and revert the Stadium name to " The Brandywell "

There are a few kops around at English grounds (I don't think anywhere outside England uses it?), but Anfield was the first,

The Oval has a Kop


I'd get on board with that Radio Foyle caller's proposal personally, but can't see it happening anytime soon. That ship has sailed, and it would only reopen what proved to be quite a divisive episode for supporters.

brandyball wrote: Thu Apr 03, 2025 4:25 pm
The Oval has a Kop

stevebradley wrote: Thu Apr 03, 2025 6:30 pm

brandyball wrote: Thu Apr 03, 2025 4:25 pm
The Oval has a Kop

Is that the main stand there ?

stevebradley wrote: Thu Apr 03, 2025 1:56 pm

brandyball wrote: Thu Apr 03, 2025 1:07 pm

TenaciousDee wrote: Thu Apr 03, 2025 9:58 am

Families will likely take the vacated spots from those who will leave the Southend Stand to go to the North Stand.

When the Utras move to " The Kop" the Away fans will take their place.

I heard Tiernan Lynch is calling the new stand 'The Kop' as well.

I suspect the name wont be long sticking when people realise that it derives from Britain's military history. You may as well call it the Waterloo stand

magspat wrote: Thu Apr 03, 2025 8:33 pm As someone already said the new stand should be called after the man who paid for it if he agrees We owe POD a lot.

IfYouTolerateThis wrote: Thu Apr 03, 2025 8:04 pm

stevebradley wrote: Thu Apr 03, 2025 1:56 pm

brandyball wrote: Thu Apr 03, 2025 1:07 pm

When the Utras move to " The Kop" the Away fans will take their place.

I heard Tiernan Lynch is calling the new stand 'The Kop' as well.

I suspect the name wont be long sticking when people realise that it derives from Britain's military history. You may as well call it the Waterloo stand

Given the history of the Derry Walls, I doubt the history of Spion Kop will carry too much indignation from the average Derry supporter.

stevebradley wrote: Thu Apr 03, 2025 10:06 pm

IfYouTolerateThis wrote: Thu Apr 03, 2025 8:04 pm

stevebradley wrote: Thu Apr 03, 2025 1:56 pm

I heard Tiernan Lynch is calling the new stand 'The Kop' as well.

I suspect the name wont be long sticking when people realise that it derives from Britain's military history. You may as well call it the Waterloo stand

Given the history of the Derry Walls, I doubt the history of Spion Kop will carry too much indignation from the average Derry supporter.

Ahh here - the Derry Walls have long since lost any sense of belonging to one or other community locally. Sure they're even in our club badge, as designed by supporters. There hasn't been any issue with the Walls themselves in my lifetime, & I'm no spring chicken

The 'kop' name comes from a famous British Army battle during the Boer War. Surely we can come up with something better/more relevant for our excellent new stand? Kop stands are meant to be steep anyway, so it doesn't even work. We can do better

stevebradley wrote: Thu Apr 03, 2025 10:06 pm

IfYouTolerateThis wrote: Thu Apr 03, 2025 8:04 pm

stevebradley wrote: Thu Apr 03, 2025 1:56 pm

I heard Tiernan Lynch is calling the new stand 'The Kop' as well.

I suspect the name wont be long sticking when people realise that it derives from Britain's military history. You may as well call it the Waterloo stand

Given the history of the Derry Walls, I doubt the history of Spion Kop will carry too much indignation from the average Derry supporter.

Ahh here - the Derry Walls have long since lost any sense of belonging to one or other community locally. Sure they're even in our club badge, as designed by supporters. There hasn't been any issue with the Walls themselves in my lifetime, & I'm no spring chicken

The 'kop' name comes from a famous British Army battle during the Boer War. Surely we can come up with something better/more relevant for our excellent new stand? Kop stands are meant to be steep anyway, so it doesn't even work. We can do better

marcoloco wrote: Fri Apr 04, 2025 9:41 am Yes to changing the stadium name. No to the kop. Seriously.

If we want to call is something jovial - the Jungle will do for me.

paul60 wrote: Fri Apr 04, 2025 10:40 am

marcoloco wrote: Fri Apr 04, 2025 9:41 am Yes to changing the stadium name. No to the kop. Seriously.

If we want to call is something jovial - the Jungle will do for me.

Agree.

Any details on site showing access to new stand?

IfYouTolerateThis wrote: Fri Apr 04, 2025 9:02 am I don't need an education on Spion Kop and it's relevance in the Boer War, but cheers for that anyway.

IfYouTolerateThis wrote: Fri Apr 04, 2025 9:02 am I think the Apprentice Boys would disagree with your analysis of the current day significance of the Derry walls.

IfYouTolerateThis wrote: Fri Apr 04, 2025 9:02 am And the fact the walls are incorporated on the club badge perhaps indicates how Derry supporters place less emphasis on the British military significance of the walls... in the same way that they would not reference the British in the Boer war with a football stand being refered to as the Kop. Surely we can be better than making these type of connections with the football club.

stevebradley wrote: Fri Apr 04, 2025 1:20 pm

IfYouTolerateThis wrote: Fri Apr 04, 2025 9:02 am I don't need an education on Spion Kop and it's relevance in the Boer War, but cheers for that anyway.

Jeez lad - you're being very precious here. This is a public forum, where posts get read by multiple people. You may be a Professor of the Boer War, but not everyone else is - so it made sense to clarify what the issue was for all readers rather than talk about something indirectly/mysteriously. Apologies if that put your nose out of joint.

IfYouTolerateThis wrote: Fri Apr 04, 2025 9:02 am I think the Apprentice Boys would disagree with your analysis of the current day significance of the Derry walls.

I made no mention of the significance of the walls to anyone. Just that they're not seen as belonging to one or other community here. Which is just a straightforward statement of fact.

IfYouTolerateThis wrote: Fri Apr 04, 2025 9:02 am And the fact the walls are incorporated on the club badge perhaps indicates how Derry supporters place less emphasis on the British military significance of the walls... in the same way that they would not reference the British in the Boer war with a football stand being refered to as the Kop. Surely we can be better than making these type of connections with the football club.

Aye - let's pretend that there is no issue at all with anything that has a military connection etc in this town

I'll make a firm prediction that that stand will not be getting referred to as 'The Kop' by City supporters. The Jungle idea mentioned above is a good alternative name in my view, with a nod to the stadium's past. I just can't see the Kop name sticking, and as someone else posted - it was probably more TL describing how he'd like the stand to function for the club.

Anyways - everyone knows that there's no kops in the Brandywell on matchdays......