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There has not been any personal attacks on players or the management their his family. This is absolutely not true.

This is clearly the start of the background being prepared for his departure along the lines 'has been hounded out'.

It is a all a bit crazy to be honest. For this to be made up now by the media is a joke.

Rubbish football, negative tactics, league tossed away - some fans boo and then we are attacked for turning on the players and manager personally when that has not happened. I have been to every game - and I have seen unhappy fans, but never once has it turned personal - and the club better not try and portray that it has, when it most certainly has not.

There is clearly a number of people involved the club and local media - who will not tolerate any criticism levied towards Higgins - no matter what happens on the pitch.

The people who have been critical on this forum about Higgins (Including myself) have been frustrated at the lack of improvement going back 18 months now, losing heavily to Rovers in may, the european debacle, Galway away, Galway at home, Drogheda away, Sligo away, Rovers away - and then last weeks events.

How these people think that no criticism or questioning can be put to the manager despite our clear fall off this season is beyond belief.

I am frankly astounded, that we are asked / expected to turn up for every game home and away (as I do) support the team through thick and thin and at some financial cost, but never once must we be unhappy or voice any concern or criticism at the management team.

The club saw how the fans supported the team in Dalymount last week, so it is pretty disgusting a week later to portray us as something we are not.

The performances against Bohs and Sligo at home - were totally not acceptable at this stage of the season - but if we are not allowed to register our feelings, then we must be living in Russia or somewhere.

Our management team need to wise up and show a degree of accountability for their team selections, tactics, interviews and absolute total throwing away of this league - if they cannot accept any form of criticism whatsoever, then we may as well pack it all in.

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Nail on the head Joe.
If they can't take criticism, they are in the wrong job.

And as you have said, the boos have only appeared in the last 2 games, with good reason. The team has had the fans full support all season. Iirc there wasn't even boos after getting knocked out by Magpies.

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Funny you should mention the Media, there was a good interview with the Manager by Dessie McCallion on Foyle this Morning. Our Manager pointed out that he his staff and players look at things in a positive way whereas you and the Media look at things Negatively however Dessie pointed out that scoring in the first half in only 6 out of 33 games is poor form and Ruidhri countered by saying yes but after 33 games we're still 2nd.

Dessie then asked you must have had faith in the players to sign them, do you still have faith? Of Course he replied as he knows the players better than anyone and we are in the privileged position of being in the Cuo Final and in with the chance of winning the league.

He also said he sees the players every day and knows how hurt they feel when they don't win games and they're all smashing Lads etc etc etc.

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joe3576 wrote: Fri Oct 18, 2024 5:13 pm There has not been any personal attacks on players
I wasn't in Drogheda a few weeks ago, but I was told Brian Maher got abuse from one angry fan in particular.

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TenaciousDee wrote: Fri Oct 18, 2024 6:38 pm
joe3576 wrote: Fri Oct 18, 2024 5:13 pm There has not been any personal attacks on players
I wasn't in Drogheda a few weeks ago, but I was told Brian Maher got abuse from one angry fan in particular.
So one loon shouting at a player constitutes as 'abuse from the fans' now?

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Keyser Soze wrote: Fri Oct 18, 2024 6:54 pm
TenaciousDee wrote: Fri Oct 18, 2024 6:38 pm
joe3576 wrote: Fri Oct 18, 2024 5:13 pm There has not been any personal attacks on players
I wasn't in Drogheda a few weeks ago, but I was told Brian Maher got abuse from one angry fan in particular.
So one loon shouting at a player constitutes as 'abuse from the fans' now?
It's a personal attack on a player and I highlighted one individual IN PARTICULAR.

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It's been a gradual decline on and off the pitch with only occasional moments of joy. Fans are growing frustrated. Only a handful of loyal fans remain on the side of the manager and they have gone very quiet of late. Maybe the penny has dropped for them too?

Once we bow out of the league I'd expect the abuse to ramp up. Don't condone it at all. There is no place for it. But I don't think it's so bad that it warrants any air time.

Good diversion tactic though.

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marcoloco wrote: Fri Oct 18, 2024 7:27 pm It's been a gradual decline on and off the pitch with only occasional moments of joy. Fans are growing frustrated. Only a handful of loyal fans remain on the side of the manager and they have gone very quiet of late. Maybe the penny has dropped for them too?

Once we bow out of the league I'd expect the abuse to ramp up. Don't condone it at all. There is no place for it. But I don't think it's so bad that it warrants any air time.

Good diversion tactic though.
My thoughts exactly him saying direct the anger towards him not the players and then him saying family members reluctant to go because of fans reactions.

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Not very convincing so far. We don't look like a team that can win the remaining 3.

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kitwe wrote: Fri Oct 18, 2024 9:03 pm Not very convincing so far. We don't look like a team that can win the remaining 3.
2-0

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Results elsewhere couldn't have gone any worse really. Rovers shels and pats winning. Now need to go and win at pats to have a chance. Those 4 points dropped last week has really cost us.

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Yeah, bad results all round. At about 920 it was looking so promising too.

3pts next week a must now. We will have to produce our game of the season I'd guess to get the win.

Yes, last weekend looks like it could have cost us this league.

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Keyser Soze wrote: Fri Oct 18, 2024 10:04 pm Yeah, bad results all round. At about 920 it was looking so promising too.

3pts next week a must now. We will have to produce our game of the season I'd guess to get the win.

Yes, last weekend looks like it could have cost us this league.
When's the last time we'd back to back victories?

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June. Bohs away and Drogheda at home.

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Delighted for Whelan and thought Boyce was very good.

Not a great game to watch but good victory.

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That pitch & stadium are an embarrassment for the league. Understable why the big tv channels don’t want to invest in that product just yet.

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Decent win last night on a dreadful surface.

I thought a lot of good performances all round.

The manager did make right calls last night - Shane was a good call last night. Playing two up front worked well until about 60 mins and then when Whelan started to tire, Patching was the right call.

Connolly a bit crazy in getting booked again - he must be due a suspension.

Danny Mullen worked tirelessly and I believe he offers far more than Hoban at present.

So yes, credit to the manager last night - he made the right decisions and the team played better as a result.


Dundalk add nothing to the league, in 20 years travelling down there, they have spent zero on the away end for fans. At least Bohs and Shels spent a bit of money on trying to make their away ends better for fans.

That tannoy constantly blasting out the MC’s nonsense and full volume would put your head away completely. - at the final whistle he deliberately played music full volume to drown out the Derry fans. Hope they stay down in the first division for a while and replace them with a club who will at least try and add something to the league.

Dundalk failed to pay their printers so no match programme last night, but yet they have the money to employ 20 Garda robo-cops (Riot police) along with 15 normal gardas for a game that doesn’t bring any trouble.

I was talking to one of the robo cop guards and he said the money it costs for Dundalk to employ 20 of these riot police at a game like this is absolutely insane, and the reason they are bust. He felt it was totally unnecessary for a game that never brings any hassle - he said only Drogheda and Rovers are the only two games where they might be needed - but never in a million years for us (Derry City).

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Joe I think your being unfair to the Dundalk players last night. They created several good chances and played at a high tempo.

The Owner gets what he deserves after walking out on his last team. Switching horses and losing the race.

Stadium should be condemned and demolished.

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marcoloco wrote: Fri Oct 18, 2024 11:36 pm That pitch & stadium are an embarrassment for the league. Understable why the big tv channels don’t want to invest in that product just yet.
The Brandywell?

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