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Re: Squad 2024
Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2023 11:36 am
by TenaciousDee
I hope Shane McEleney has been offered a deal for next year. When he initially signed back I raised an eyebrow believing he would only be a back up option, but for me he was a contender for Player of the Year. Rarely got the credit he deserved, Shane was our most consistent and reliable performer this year. I think he has deserved the chance of staying.
I love Ciaran Coll, always a 7/10 performer on a bad day. He played Centre Back, Right Back and his natural position of left back and rarely put a foot wrong. If he wants first squad football he may choose not to renew, which I think would be disappointing.
I mentioned before Brandon Kavanagh has changed my opinion of him. Last year he was played on the wing and was easily played off the ball when running on the outside (on his weaker foot). Through the middle he looked like the player he was at Rovers 2nds and at Bray. Six goals in all comps and at least 6 assists too. He offers a better attacking option than what we have through the middle and if given a chance could improve on his form since getting back in the team around May/June.
Re: Squad 2024
Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2023 12:09 pm
by marcoloco
Do Derry use any data analysis techniques when assessing player performance, mistakes etc etc?
Re: Squad 2024
Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2023 12:28 pm
by mokendismucker
TenaciousDee wrote: Sun Nov 05, 2023 11:36 am
I hope Shane McEleney has been offered a deal for next year. When he initially signed back I raised an eyebrow believing he would only be a back up option, but for me he was a contender for Player of the Year. Rarely got the credit he deserved, Shane was our most consistent and reliable performer this year. I think he has deserved the chance of staying.
I love Ciaran Coll, always a 7/10 performer on a bad day. He played Centre Back, Right Back and his natural position of left back and rarely put a foot wrong. If he wants first squad football he may choose not to renew, which I think would be disappointing.
I mentioned before Brandon Kavanagh has changed my opinion of him. Last year he was played on the wing and was easily played off the ball when running on the outside (on his weaker foot). Through the middle he looked like the player he was at Rovers 2nds and at Bray. Six goals in all comps and at least 6 assists too. He offers a better attacking option than what we have through the middle and if given a chance could improve on his form since getting back in the team around May/June.
Can’t argue with any of this and from what I have heard (on William Street) both Shane and Coll will re-sign. Brandon Kavanagh has easily been the most improved player in our squad. I hope he isn’t eased out. Cian Kavanagh is gone and apparently Diallo and Derry are a distance apart in contract negotiations. While Fats gave us another glimpse of some of what we have missed on Friday night for me Dummigan has also been a huge miss in the middle. Fit he would be my first name on the team sheet in that anchor role.
Some great centre forward rumours doing the rounds……
Re: Squad 2024
Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2023 12:50 pm
by TenaciousDee
marcoloco wrote: Sun Nov 05, 2023 12:09 pm
Do Derry use any data analysis techniques when assessing player performance, mistakes etc etc?
On Match Night Seamus McCallion sits at the back of the Mark Farren Stand with an iPad reading through the data he is collecting during the game. You should have seen the army of staff reading the data for Pat's this season. Alan Matthews was leading it but he was surrounded by about five others on Friday, with people calling up and leaving throughout.
Re: Squad 2024
Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2023 12:59 pm
by marcoloco
TenaciousDee wrote: Sun Nov 05, 2023 12:50 pm
marcoloco wrote: Sun Nov 05, 2023 12:09 pm
Do Derry use any data analysis techniques when assessing player performance, mistakes etc etc?
On Match Night Seamus McCallion sits at the back of the Mark Farren Stand with an iPad reading through the data he is collecting during the game. You should have seen the army of staff reading the data for Pat's this season. Alan Matthews was leading it but he was surrounded by about five others on Friday, with people calling up and leaving throughout.
Interesting observation.
We've only the one fixed camera point in the Brandywell. The new stand offers a chance for a second directly behind the goal and at an elevated position. I'm talking less about in-game analysis and more post game analysis to help review past games, player performances, strengths and weaknesses etc.
Re: Squad 2024
Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2023 1:18 pm
by mokendismucker
marcoloco wrote: Sun Nov 05, 2023 12:09 pm
Do Derry use any data analysis techniques when assessing player performance, mistakes etc etc?
Really!! Tell me a club that doesn’t in this day and age?
Re: Squad 2024
Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2023 2:40 pm
by TenaciousDee
marcoloco wrote: Sun Nov 05, 2023 12:59 pm
I'm talking less about in-game analysis and more post game analysis to help review past games, player performances, strengths and weaknesses etc.
When Conor Loughery did the job there was a day leading up to a game he did a presentation on the opposition to the squad, I assume that continues under Garry Boyle. Our own games I think the squad watch and the management analyse parts of our own games to focus on during training in preparation for a game.
Re: Squad 2024
Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2023 3:22 pm
by nial9
We should keep Maher, Dummigan, Boyce, McMullan, Whelan, McJannett, O'Reilly, Patching, Coll, Doherty, Todd,Barr, McCay,Kavanagh B. Let all the others go. We cannot carry players with long term injuries or who are not up to it if we are to win this league after more than 26 years. And we need players who will go to places like Drogheda and Sligo and perform. We could start with Gaffney and Power from S . Rovers.
Re: Squad 2024
Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2023 3:33 pm
by DeeDerry1975
nial9 wrote: Tue Nov 07, 2023 3:22 pm
We should keep Maher, Dummigan, Boyce, McMullan, Whelan, McJannett, O'Reilly, Patching, Coll, Doherty, Todd,Barr, McCay,Kavanagh B. Let all the others go. We cannot carry players with long term injuries or who are not up to it if we are to win this league after more than 26 years. And we need players who will go to places like Drogheda and Sligo and perform. We could start with Gaffney and Power from S . Rovers.
Simon Power? He has made 9 appearances (2 of those 9 in the Leinster Senior Cup) since signing For Rovers in July 2022 mostly to do with the fact that he has been injured for most of his time there
Duffy had an amazing injury record at Dundalk, hardly missed a game, he has been very unlucky with us to be honest, played over 40 games every season he was there.
Re: Squad 2024
Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2023 3:38 pm
by brandyball
nial9 wrote: Tue Nov 07, 2023 3:22 pm
We should keep Maher, Dummigan, Boyce, McMullan, Whelan, McJannett, O'Reilly, Patching, Coll, Doherty, Todd,Barr, McCay,Kavanagh B. Let all the others go. We cannot carry players with long term injuries or who are not up to it if we are to win this league after more than 26 years. And we need players who will go to places like Drogheda and Sligo and perform. We could start with Gaffney and Power from S . Rovers.
Erm Whelan has had 2 long term injuries
Re: Squad 2024
Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2023 5:51 pm
by kitwe
Boyce, Connolly and both McEleneys not to remain? I find that very surprising.
Re: Squad 2024
Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2023 5:56 pm
by kitwe
I believe they're all under contract anyway except perhaps Shane.
Re: Squad 2024
Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2023 11:55 am
by barry
Coll and Jackie resigned on 1yr deals
Re: Squad 2024
Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2023 1:05 pm
by brandyball
Cian Kavanagh has left club.
Re: Squad 2024
Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2023 6:39 pm
by stevebradley
Gaffney signs a one year contract with Rovers.
That probably leaves us Hoban to be aiming for in terms of free agents ?
What about Afolabi at Bohs (not a free agent btw) ?
Re: Squad 2024
Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2023 7:42 pm
by davybhoy
Anyone know the timeframe for Collie Whelan to come back. His ACL injury reoccurred at the start of June
Re: Squad 2024
Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2023 8:47 pm
by marcoloco
davybhoy wrote: Wed Nov 08, 2023 7:42 pm
Anyone know the timeframe for Collie Whelan to come back. His ACL injury reoccurred at the start of June
Wish him a speedy recovery but would hate to pin our hopes on him. Consecutive injuries will play havoc with his body. Can’t see him maintaining his fitness long term.
Re: Squad 2024
Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2023 8:49 pm
by marcoloco
stevebradley wrote: Wed Nov 08, 2023 6:39 pm
Gaffney signs a one year contract with Rovers.
That probably leaves us Hoban to be aiming for in terms of free agents ?
What about Afolabi at Bohs (not a free agent btw) ?
Getting Hoban, a player with a point to prove, would be an excellent signing. Galway will appeal to him but Derry can offer him Europe and a crack at another Title. Let’s hope we make a move and he chooses us.
Re: Squad 2024
Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2023 9:18 pm
by Keyser Soze
Could Galway afford him?
He'd be looking for big wages.
Re: Squad 2024
Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2023 9:59 pm
by marcoloco
At 32 he’ll want a 2 yr contract. Galway have spent big in the past and look the real deal both on and off the pitch. There’s no fee involved so wages are the only outlay. Maybe he’ll delay a return to his hometown club for another while yet.