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I don't want to go over the same old shit again. It's like fucking Groundhog Day in here.fergal wrote: Thu Nov 21, 2024 4:46 pm The football has been brutal to watch for 2 years. Not just the end of the one past. Either you haven't been watching us, or don't want to admit it.
Because football fans are different in the IPL?You just have to look at Patching's reaction in Dundalk, and how quick out the door Fats and Shane were, to see what they thought of it all.
This is a crazy defence. It's like Derrys fans are the only fans in the world to let their players know what they are serving up isn't acceptable.PauliAlonso wrote: Thu Nov 21, 2024 4:44 pmLike I said, I don't want to pull this off topic; I replied to a comment about how we can make players feel more comfortable...this is all in the context of putting a squad together for 2025. But I'll answer your questions, as I think I have to defend myself here.IfYouTolerateThis wrote: Thu Nov 21, 2024 3:47 pmMate it's hard to say this but you make me believe that you seek some sort of utopia, woke football.PauliAlonso wrote: Thu Nov 21, 2024 1:43 pm
Not booing them off the pitch might be a start. I don't want to start a whole thing here, but the fans' reaction to our drop in form at the end was seen all around the country. Players know about that. The Virgin Media sports guy named that as one of his reasons at the time why we wouldn't win the title race ("the fans have turned"); the journalist who asked Tiernan Lynch what he thought of Derry having "10,000 managers". It'll be a job convincing some quality players to stay/come.
You vehemently defended RH in light of horrific performances and now you don't believe fans should boo players when they play dire?
Any pundit here or across the water will always defend fans having their right to voice their objections to abject performances. Are you saying DCFC fans should pay their money and accept whatever is served up? Without any dissent?
Do you believe players don't accept that if they are shite, the fans shouldn't tell them that they are shite? If this is football, count me out.
I was embarrassed at what has been in the media from family members of former players and the former manager. People who had no objections to raise about fans voicing their opinions, for years, until it was their family members being made acutely aware that they were not meeting the expectations of those contributing to their wages.
There isn't ONE club, in the LOI, IL, across Europe or elsewhere that wouldn't expect fans to voice their opinions. Players get booed off for one reason and o e reason only...they have been awful.
This has nothing to do with wokeness or wanting a lovey-dovey, tree-hugging experience at football games. So, relax Piers Morgan.
I defended Higgins' tenure. I didn't think that the end part of one season should overwrite the success of the previous three years and I didn't think it should be a sackable offence.You vehemently defended RH in light of horrific performances...
I don't think there's a benefit to it, even more so going into the last few games of a potential double. I think at half-time against Sligo, if the crowd had stood, applauded and cheered the players into the tunnel, it would have had a better effect..not only on the second half but going into the next games too. Would you rather go into the break knowing that you have 3000+ people behind you, willing you on, or the knowledge that those people think you're shite and you can't turn this around?and now you don't believe fans should boo players when they play dire?
Do you think the players don't know that already? That any of them thought "Hey, the fans are booing, are we playing badly tonight, I thought we were great, no?". Do you think that's not the first thing the manager and Hegarty will tell them in the dressing room? Players need a kick up the hole from time to time and the coaches should give it. I think players will respond better knowing that they have the support and belief of the fans. Once the fans turn like ours did, the signal they're sending to the players is that it's done, we're not winning this. So if the fans don't believe, why should the players? Let the fans boo, but when it's done and dusted, not when we're still in with a chance. You just have to look at Patching's reaction in Dundalk, and how quick out the door Fats and Shane were, to see what they thought of it all.Do you believe players don't accept that if they are shite, the fans shouldn't tell them that they are shite?
...and I think all that will have a bearing on who stays, who goes and who comes in. But I hope I'm wrong.
He used to give away a lot of reckless frees in bad positions, and often got cards for ill timed tackles.marcoloco wrote: Fri Nov 22, 2024 3:58 pm What Diallo's contractural position?
I personally have lost all confidence in him despite enjoying watching him in his first season - pulling out of tackles and giving the ball away too often he just looks like he's not prepared to go all in for the team. One of several I'd move on if we can.
He did foul often both inside and outside the box. But I notice this season he's just not committed. I think performances against Bohs (at home) when he turned away (rather than blocking) their player who hits a shot from 30 yards out was shocking. That's just one example but it was evident again during the cup final. When we look at this along with the fouls and penalties and giving the ball away in dangerous positions i've just lost confidence in him.Keyser Soze wrote: Fri Nov 22, 2024 4:06 pmHe used to give away a lot of reckless frees in bad positions, and often got cards for ill timed tackles.marcoloco wrote: Fri Nov 22, 2024 3:58 pm What Diallo's contractural position?
I personally have lost all confidence in him despite enjoying watching him in his first season - pulling out of tackles and giving the ball away too often he just looks like he's not prepared to go all in for the team. One of several I'd move on if we can.
Do you think he's trying not to do this as much, and as a result he looks like he's pulling out of them and not making an effort?
Signed a 2yr extension last November so still has 1yr remainingmarcoloco wrote: Fri Nov 22, 2024 3:58 pm What Diallo's contractural position?
I personally have lost all confidence in him despite enjoying watching him in his first season - pulling out of tackles and giving the ball away too often he just looks like he's not prepared to go all in for the team. One of several I'd move on if we can.
Like i say I enjoyed watching him in his first season but now lots of bad habits in his play. will take a big improvement on his part otherwise I think he could find himself out of the team.Keyser Soze wrote: Fri Nov 22, 2024 5:34 pm Maybe the new management team might improve him as a player. We can wait and see.
There's not many players in our squad who you could say improved as players under the old management team.
Never to be seen again...?TenaciousDee wrote: Fri Nov 22, 2024 5:57 pm He went back to England a day last week in a rented car if rumour is to be believed.
Seen on twitter that Bohs are looking at him.marcoloco wrote: Fri Nov 22, 2024 6:01 pmOne player that must be looking forward to a fresh start next season is Dan Kelly. Arrived with big reputation but just didnt settle on the park for some reason. Hopefully we can see the best of him next season.TenaciousDee wrote: Fri Nov 22, 2024 5:57 pm He went back to England a day last week in a rented car if rumour is to be believed.
Depends how versatile he is I guess. Had a tough season and didnt really produce so hoping he can only get better.Neutrino wrote: Fri Nov 22, 2024 6:18 pmSeen on twitter that Bohs are looking at him.marcoloco wrote: Fri Nov 22, 2024 6:01 pmOne player that must be looking forward to a fresh start next season is Dan Kelly. Arrived with big reputation but just didnt settle on the park for some reason. Hopefully we can see the best of him next season.TenaciousDee wrote: Fri Nov 22, 2024 5:57 pm He went back to England a day last week in a rented car if rumour is to be believed.
Also, if Lynch plays with wing backs would there even be a spot for him?
He'll need more than just wing backs in the team!Neutrino wrote: Fri Nov 22, 2024 6:18 pmSeen on twitter that Bohs are looking at him.marcoloco wrote: Fri Nov 22, 2024 6:01 pmOne player that must be looking forward to a fresh start next season is Dan Kelly. Arrived with big reputation but just didnt settle on the park for some reason. Hopefully we can see the best of him next season.TenaciousDee wrote: Fri Nov 22, 2024 5:57 pm He went back to England a day last week in a rented car if rumour is to be believed.
Also, if Lynch plays with wing backs would there even be a spot for him?
Maybe moving towards a more youthful lineup. I personally will be sorry to see him leave.