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Posted: **Tue Nov 19, 2024 4:52 pm**

TenaciousDee wrote: Tue Nov 19, 2024 4:42 pm His hips lie, Brandy, his hips lie.
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Still think there's another year or 2 in him.

Posted: **Wed Nov 20, 2024 8:14 pm**

Any rumours of signings? I’m sure 1 or 2 NIFL players could be en route with Tiarnan’s knowledge of the league

Posted: **Wed Nov 20, 2024 9:29 pm**

DCFC18 wrote: Wed Nov 20, 2024 8:14 pm Any rumours of signings? I’m sure 1 or 2 NIFL players could be en route with Tiarnan’s knowledge of the league

http://derrycitychat.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=17284

Posted: **Thu Nov 21, 2024 8:56 am**

His stats don't inspire any great excitement.

You'd nearly think it was another Higgins journeyman signing.

Posted: **Thu Nov 21, 2024 9:55 am**

Is it a good sign that maher and o reily still haven't signed for anyone else. It would be a great start for lynch if he could convince them to stay. Wishful thinking but you never know.

Posted: **Thu Nov 21, 2024 10:20 am**

Paddydcfc2010 wrote: Thu Nov 21, 2024 9:55 am Is it a good sign that maher and o reily still haven't signed for anyone else. It would be a great start for lynch if he could convince them to stay. Wishful thinking but you never know.

Well the big talk was that Maher was Rovers bound.
Now they are showing interest in McGinty.
So perhaps Maher might end up with no suitors, and might be best staying here for another season at least?

But I'm sure O'Reilly will have other offers.

Posted: **Thu Nov 21, 2024 11:06 am**

Paddydcfc2010 wrote: Thu Nov 21, 2024 9:55 am Is it a good sign that maher and o reily still haven't signed for anyone else. It would be a great start for lynch if he could convince them to stay. Wishful thinking but you never know.

Only players moving to IPL are getting snapped up.

No way would the other 2 mentioned take a step in that direction.

Posted: **Thu Nov 21, 2024 12:41 pm**

O’Reilly may become a more complete player under Lynch.
Maher could see this as opportunity to reignite his chances of winning trophies.
Lynch is not here just for the wage but to use Derry as part of his CV to move on higher things when he feels has the job completed. I hope he has the success here to allow him to do that.
What input can we have that will make the team comfortable as individuals wanting to be part of our community rather than football slaves. It can make a difference to a players confidence and belonging.

Posted: **Thu Nov 21, 2024 1:21 pm**

I can definitely see Maher staying at least.

Posted: **Thu Nov 21, 2024 1:43 pm**

paul60 wrote: Thu Nov 21, 2024 12:41 pm What input can we have that will make the team comfortable as individuals wanting to be part of our community rather than football slaves. It can make a difference to a players confidence and belonging.

Not booing them off the pitch might be a start. I don't want to start a whole thing here, but the fans' reaction to our drop in form at the end was seen all around the country. Players know about that. The Virgin Media sports guy named that as one of his reasons at the time why we wouldn't win the title race ("the fans have turned"); the journalist who asked Tiernan Lynch what he thought of Derry having "10,000 managers". It'll be a job convincing some quality players to stay/come.

Posted: **Thu Nov 21, 2024 2:10 pm**

PauliAlonso wrote: Thu Nov 21, 2024 1:43 pm
paul60 wrote: Thu Nov 21, 2024 12:41 pm What input can we have that will make the team comfortable as individuals wanting to be part of our community rather than football slaves. It can make a difference to a players confidence and belonging.
Not booing them off the pitch might be a start. I don't want to start a whole thing here, but the fans' reaction to our drop in form at the end was seen all around the country. Players know about that. The Virgin Media sports guy named that as one of his reasons at the time why we wouldn't win the title race ("the fans have turned"); the journalist who asked Tiernan Lynch what he thought of Derry having "10,000 managers". It'll be a job convincing some quality players to stay/come.

Dressing room was the first to go. Then the fans. Then the manager.

Agree. Without Europe he's kinda stuck between a rock and a hard place.

Posted: **Thu Nov 21, 2024 2:54 pm**

No more rumours of Dummigan moving on?

Posted: **Thu Nov 21, 2024 3:14 pm**

Keyser Soze wrote: Thu Nov 21, 2024 2:54 pm No more rumours of Dummigan moving on?

That was nonsense, no truth in it whatsoever

Posted: **Thu Nov 21, 2024 3:34 pm**

Keyser Soze wrote: Thu Nov 21, 2024 8:56 am His stats don't inspire any great excitement.

You'd nearly think it was another Higgins journeyman signing.

Was highly rated in his first spell at Oxford United which earned him a transfer to the Championship with Cardiff. Not sure if its just recently or has been the case since he moved to England but appears he's been living alone from his family; there is an article in the Belfast Telegraph (behind a pay wall) where he says he decided to come because he missed the birth of his son who was born on the opening day of the season

Posted: **Thu Nov 21, 2024 3:47 pm**

PauliAlonso wrote: Thu Nov 21, 2024 1:43 pm
paul60 wrote: Thu Nov 21, 2024 12:41 pm What input can we have that will make the team comfortable as individuals wanting to be part of our community rather than football slaves. It can make a difference to a players confidence and belonging.
Not booing them off the pitch might be a start. I don't want to start a whole thing here, but the fans' reaction to our drop in form at the end was seen all around the country. Players know about that. The Virgin Media sports guy named that as one of his reasons at the time why we wouldn't win the title race ("the fans have turned"); the journalist who asked Tiernan Lynch what he thought of Derry having "10,000 managers". It'll be a job convincing some quality players to stay/come.

Mate it's hard to say this but you make me believe that you seek some sort of utopia, woke football.

You vehemently defended RH in light of horrific performances and now you don't believe fans should boo players when they play dire?

Any pundit here or across the water will always defend fans having their right to voice their objections to abject performances. Are you saying DCFC fans should pay their money and accept whatever is served up? Without any dissent?

Do you believe players don't accept that if they are shite, the fans shouldn't tell them that they are shite? If this is football, count me out.

I was embarrassed at what has been in the media from family members of former players and the former manager. People who had no objections to raise about fans voicing their opinions, for years, until it was their family members being made acutely aware that they were not meeting the expectations of those contributing to their wages.

There isn't ONE club, in the LOI, IL, across Europe or elsewhere that wouldn't expect fans to voice their opinions. Players get booed off for one reason and o e reason only...they have been awful.

Posted: **Thu Nov 21, 2024 3:51 pm**

dcfc_jp_1989 wrote: Thu Nov 21, 2024 3:34 pm
Keyser Soze wrote: Thu Nov 21, 2024 8:56 am His stats don't inspire any great excitement.

You'd nearly think it was another Higgins journeyman signing.
Was highly rated in his first spell at Oxford United which earned him a transfer to the Championship with Cardiff. Not sure if its just recently or has been the case since he moved to England but appears he's been living alone from his family; there is an article in the Belfast Telegraph (behind a pay wall) where he says he decided to come because he missed the birth of his son who was born on the opening day of the season

https://archive.ph/

Should help with pay walls

Posted: **Thu Nov 21, 2024 4:20 pm**

marcoloco wrote: Thu Nov 21, 2024 2:10 pm
PauliAlonso wrote: Thu Nov 21, 2024 1:43 pm
paul60 wrote: Thu Nov 21, 2024 12:41 pm What input can we have that will make the team comfortable as individuals wanting to be part of our community rather than football slaves. It can make a difference to a players confidence and belonging.
Not booing them off the pitch might be a start. I don't want to start a whole thing here, but the fans' reaction to our drop in form at the end was seen all around the country. Players know about that. The Virgin Media sports guy named that as one of his reasons at the time why we wouldn't win the title race ("the fans have turned"); the journalist who asked Tiernan Lynch what he thought of Derry having "10,000 managers". It'll be a job convincing some quality players to stay/come.
Dressing room was the first to go. Then the fans. Then the manager.

Agree. Without Europe he's kinda stuck between a rock and a hard place.

This is madness. RH must have friends in the media, as there was never any tough questions asked of him when the football was awful. Now he's gone it's a whole sad story.
The football was brutal, going out of Europe and not qualifying for Europe will cost the club a fortune. If any manager of any business cost their company that kind of money, ye would fully expect to be sacked.

No fan in any league in the world would have sat quietly about that given the budget available. The amount of airtime given to suggest people were driving out is madness.

Posted: **Thu Nov 21, 2024 4:32 pm**

fergal wrote: Thu Nov 21, 2024 4:20 pm
marcoloco wrote: Thu Nov 21, 2024 2:10 pm
PauliAlonso wrote: Thu Nov 21, 2024 1:43 pm

Not booing them off the pitch might be a start. I don't want to start a whole thing here, but the fans' reaction to our drop in form at the end was seen all around the country. Players know about that. The Virgin Media sports guy named that as one of his reasons at the time why we wouldn't win the title race ("the fans have turned"); the journalist who asked Tiernan Lynch what he thought of Derry having "10,000 managers". It'll be a job convincing some quality players to stay/come.
Dressing room was the first to go. Then the fans. Then the manager.

Agree. Without Europe he's kinda stuck between a rock and a hard place.
This is madness. RH must have friends in the media, as there was never any tough questions asked of him when the football was awful. Now he's gone it's a whole sad story.
The football was brutal, going out of Europe and not qualifying for Europe will cost the club a fortune. If any manager of any business cost their company that kind of money, ye would fully expect to be sacked.

No fan in any league in the world would have sat quietly about that given the budget available. The amount of airtime given to suggest people were driving out is madness.

Great post Fergal. Seems to be a thing these days that people think it's personal abuse when people are not happy due to the results and the performances and pointing out the obvious. He was a disaster in the second half of the season and deserved to go- if that was Kenny Sheils, Roddy Collins etc that was serving up that crap the people who were supporting RH would be looking for them to be gone.

Posted: **Thu Nov 21, 2024 4:44 pm**

IfYouTolerateThis wrote: Thu Nov 21, 2024 3:47 pm
PauliAlonso wrote: Thu Nov 21, 2024 1:43 pm
paul60 wrote: Thu Nov 21, 2024 12:41 pm What input can we have that will make the team comfortable as individuals wanting to be part of our community rather than football slaves. It can make a difference to a players confidence and belonging.
Not booing them off the pitch might be a start. I don't want to start a whole thing here, but the fans' reaction to our drop in form at the end was seen all around the country. Players know about that. The Virgin Media sports guy named that as one of his reasons at the time why we wouldn't win the title race ("the fans have turned"); the journalist who asked Tiernan Lynch what he thought of Derry having "10,000 managers". It'll be a job convincing some quality players to stay/come.
Mate it's hard to say this but you make me believe that you seek some sort of utopia, woke football.

You vehemently defended RH in light of horrific performances and now you don't believe fans should boo players when they play dire?

Any pundit here or across the water will always defend fans having their right to voice their objections to abject performances. Are you saying DCFC fans should pay their money and accept whatever is served up? Without any dissent?

Do you believe players don't accept that if they are shite, the fans shouldn't tell them that they are shite? If this is football, count me out.

I was embarrassed at what has been in the media from family members of former players and the former manager. People who had no objections to raise about fans voicing their opinions, for years, until it was their family members being made acutely aware that they were not meeting the expectations of those contributing to their wages.

There isn't ONE club, in the LOI, IL, across Europe or elsewhere that wouldn't expect fans to voice their opinions. Players get booed off for one reason and o e reason only...they have been awful.

Like I said, I don't want to pull this off topic; I replied to a comment about how we can make players feel more comfortable...this is all in the context of putting a squad together for 2025. But I'll answer your questions, as I think I have to defend myself here.

This has nothing to do with wokeness or wanting a lovey-dovey, tree-hugging experience at football games. So, relax Piers Morgan.

You vehemently defended RH in light of horrific performances...

I defended Higgins' tenure. I didn't think that the end part of one season should overwrite the success of the previous three years and I didn't think it should be a sackable offence.

and now you don't believe fans should boo players when they play dire?

I don't think there's a benefit to it, even more so going into the last few games of a potential double. I think at half-time against Sligo, if the crowd had stood, applauded and cheered the players into the tunnel, it would have had a better effect..not only on the second half but going into the next games too. Would you rather go into the break knowing that you have 3000+ people behind you, willing you on, or the knowledge that those people think you're shite and you can't turn this around?

Do you believe players don't accept that if they are shite, the fans shouldn't tell them that they are shite?

Do you think the players don't know that already? That any of them thought "Hey, the fans are booing, are we playing badly tonight, I thought we were great, no?". Do you think that's not the first thing the manager and Hegarty will tell them in the dressing room? Players need a kick up the hole from time to time and the coaches should give it. I think players will respond better knowing that they have the support and belief of the fans. Once the fans turn like ours did, the signal they're sending to the players is that it's done, we're not winning this. So if the fans don't believe, why should the players? Let the fans boo, but when it's done and dusted, not when we're still in with a chance. You just have to look at Patching's reaction in Dundalk, and how quick out the door Fats and Shane were, to see what they thought of it all.

...and I think all that will have a bearing on who stays, who goes and who comes in. But I hope I'm wrong.

Posted: **Thu Nov 21, 2024 4:46 pm**

The football has been brutal to watch for 2 years. Not just the end of the one past. Either you haven't been watching us, or don't want to admit it.

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