Brandywell Stadium Development

[dcfc_jp_1989]

Dept of Communities expecting to be able to announce the first successful applicants by late summer.

37 applications from 38 clubs (there was 2 clubs submitted a joint application) & 1 application from a council in partnership with a performance club. No figures released on how much is needed to fund all applications

[stevebradley]

Dept of Communities expecting to be able to announce the first successful applicants by late summer.

37 applications from 38 clubs (there was 2 clubs submitted a joint application) & 1 application from a council in partnership with a performance club. No figures released on how much is needed to fund all applications

The money will be over-subscribed many times over. So it will be interesting to see not only who gets the cash - but also what they say about future money for everyone else.

[dcfc_jp_1989]

Dept of Communities expecting to be able to announce the first successful applicants by late summer.

37 applications from 38 clubs (there was 2 clubs submitted a joint application) & 1 application from a council in partnership with a performance club. No figures released on how much is needed to fund all applications

The money will be over-subscribed many times over. So it will be interesting to see not only who gets the cash - but also what they say about future money for everyone else.

Yeah I'd imagine it will be closer to £200m (if not more) than it will be to £100m to fund all projects. Interesting when asked about it the minister had the above info at hand but not the monetary figure of all projects or maybe he did but felt now is not the right time to release that.

In terms of the potential successful projects I've seen comments on social media over the last few months predicting an initial carve up between Derry City, Coleraine, Cliftonville & Glentoran - it will be interesting to see how accurate those predictions are. However if they are correct we shouldn't get excited too soon because we've seen in the past Crusaders don't take too kindly to being refused money, they've won a couple of court cases over the last 10yrs - first one was against the executive to prevent Derry City & Glentoran from getting the bulk of the money & the other was most recently against the British Govt for money from the levelling up fund. I'd imagine they'll do the same again

[gary]

Dept of Communities expecting to be able to announce the first successful applicants by late summer.

37 applications from 38 clubs (there was 2 clubs submitted a joint application) & 1 application from a council in partnership with a performance club. No figures released on how much is needed to fund all applications

The money will be over-subscribed many times over. So it will be interesting to see not only who gets the cash - but also what they say about future money for everyone else.

We can guess pretty clearly were we will be left on that list

[attack!attack!attack]

Dept of Communities expecting to be able to announce the first successful applicants by late summer.

37 applications from 38 clubs (there was 2 clubs submitted a joint application) & 1 application from a council in partnership with a performance club. No figures released on how much is needed to fund all applications

The money will be over-subscribed many times over. So it will be interesting to see not only who gets the cash - but also what they say about future money for everyone else.

We can guess pretty clearly were we will be left on that list

Agree, it would be hardly surprising if we got a small portion given this context.

However, S Barrett mentioned that the money would be used to upgrade the pitch, Southend Stand, floodlights, and extend the MF Stand. I doubt we will get such a share of the pot to do all of that.

[gary]

Agree, it would be hardly surprising if we got a small portion given this context.

However, S Barrett mentioned that the money would be used to upgrade the pitch, Southend Stand, floodlights, and extend the MF Stand. I doubt we will get such a share of the pot to do all of that.

Unfortunately Institute are applied separately competing with us for stadium money,
It would have been far better to develop one proper stadium for both clubs, and separate training facilities.

Now we are applying on our own without the council or anyone else, and given how little the city gets as it is
Ill be dumbfounded if we get anything but peanuts, and these days SF and the SDLP might squeak a little, but they seem to do very little
to get Derry its share of anything.

But lets see come the end of the summer.

[dcfc_jp_1989]

Agree, it would be hardly surprising if we got a small portion given this context.

However, S Barrett mentioned that the money would be used to upgrade the pitch, Southend Stand, floodlights, and extend the MF Stand. I doubt we will get such a share of the pot to do all of that.

Unfortunately Institute are applied separately competing with us for stadium money,
It would have been far better to develop one proper stadium for both clubs, and separate training facilities.

Now we are applying on our own without the council or anyone else, and given how little the city gets as it is
Ill be dumbfounded if we get anything but peanuts, and these days SF and the SDLP might squeak a little, but they seem to do very little
to get Derry its share of anything.

But lets see come the end of the summer.

We're not competing with Institute for money. Institute's application is less than £6m so they're applying in tier 2. Our application is £6m+ so we're applying to tier 3 & competing with the likes of Cliftonville, Crusaders, Glentoran, Coleraine. SDLP & SF have no say over who gets what, Govt officials from the Dept of Communities will be assessing the applications

[magspat]

We will get sweet f all from them boys in Stormont.

[stevebradley]

Agree, it would be hardly surprising if we got a small portion given this context.

However, S Barrett mentioned that the money would be used to upgrade the pitch, Southend Stand, floodlights, and extend the MF Stand. I doubt we will get such a share of the pot to do all of that.

Unfortunately Institute are applied separately competing with us for stadium money,
It would have been far better to develop one proper stadium for both clubs, and separate training facilities.

Now we are applying on our own without the council or anyone else, and given how little the city gets as it is
Ill be dumbfounded if we get anything but peanuts, and these days SF and the SDLP might squeak a little, but they seem to do very little
to get Derry its share of anything.

But lets see come the end of the summer.

We're not competing with Institute for money. Institute's application is less than £6m so they're applying in tier 2. Our application is £6m+ so we're applying to tier 3 & competing with the likes of Cliftonville, Crusaders, Glentoran, Coleraine. SDLP & SF have no say over who gets what, Govt officials from the Dept of Communities will be assessing the applications

Also no point having a single stadium for Derry and Stute - or that stadium being the Brandywell. Stute have the right to try to create a community and a future for themselves in a location of their choice. Groundsharing permanently wiht Derry would kill the club.

[gary]

Also no point having a single stadium for Derry and Stute - or that stadium being the Brandywell. Stute have the right to try to create a community and a future for themselves in a location of their choice. Groundsharing permanently wiht Derry would kill the club.

of course they have every right to pursue their own stadium, but with the size of the city, and more important the economic activity.
Two clubs trying to build separate stadiums will kill off one of the clubs for sure. And definitely hampers funding for both clubs.

Instead of constantly demanding the Brandywell area is left to rot, maybe people should be demanding investment in the area
rather than always getting digs in at every opportunity. In every other city in Ireland that area with the river and so close to the city center
would have seen huge development over the years.

[stevebradley]

Also no point having a single stadium for Derry and Stute - or that stadium being the Brandywell. Stute have the right to try to create a community and a future for themselves in a location of their choice. Groundsharing permanently wiht Derry would kill the club.

of course they have every right to pursue their own stadium, but with the size of the city, and more important the economic activity.
Two clubs trying to build separate stadiums will kill off one of the clubs for sure. And definitely hampers funding for both clubs.

I don't think either of those assertions is true though. Derry already have a stadium. And there's more than enough room for Stute to develop a relatively modest one in BT47 that meets their own needs. As someone else has highlighted above - both clubs are bidding for money from different tiers, so they aren't competing with each other. There's nothing to stop both getting funding out of the NIFF.

Instead of constantly demanding the Brandywell area is left to rot, maybe people should be demanding investment in the area rather than always getting digs in at every opportunity. In every other city in Ireland that area with the river and so close to the city center would have seen huge development over the years.

Has the Brandywell area been left to rot though? If so - how? It looks in fairly decent shape to me these days to be honest - especially with the Dasiyfield development and all the flats along there. Who is constantly getting digs in at the area? And if it really does need investment - is an expanded football stadium the only or preferrred option? Is that genuinely the answer to the needs of the people who live there?

[marcoloco]

Also no point having a single stadium for Derry and Stute - or that stadium being the Brandywell. Stute have the right to try to create a community and a future for themselves in a location of their choice. Groundsharing permanently wiht Derry would kill the club.

of course they have every right to pursue their own stadium, but with the size of the city, and more important the economic activity.
Two clubs trying to build separate stadiums will kill off one of the clubs for sure. And definitely hampers funding for both clubs.

I don't think either of those assertions is true though. Derry already have a stadium. And there's more than enough room for Stute to develop a relatively modest one in BT47 that meets their own needs. As someone else has highlighted above - both clubs are bidding for money from different tiers, so they aren't competing with each other. There's nothing to stop both getting funding out of the NIFF.

Instead of constantly demanding the Brandywell area is left to rot, maybe people should be demanding investment in the area rather than always getting digs in at every opportunity. In every other city in Ireland that area with the river and so close to the city center would have seen huge development over the years.

Has the Brandywell area been left to rot though? If so - how? It looks in fairly decent shape to me these days to be honest - especially with the Dasiyfield development and all the flats along there. Who is constantly getting digs in at the area? And if it really does need investment - is an expanded football stadium the only or preferrred option? Is that genuinely the answer to the needs of the people who live there?

Steve I agree with much of that. But the Brandywell is a highly deprived area. A load of new social housing doesn't change the reality for many who live in that area. That's one of the reasons i'd hate to lose the stadium. Its been there for 100 years and has given the local area a positive identiy and sporting outlet. Its not disimilar to stadiums acorss the globe that are built in the middle of a residential area that has produced many great footballers over the years. But the stadium itself was old and needed upgrading and investment. Its not expanded as you put it as previously it was able to cater for much higher crowds. Since the return to the league in the 1980s it was considered an 8 to 10k capacity venue. All we are doing now is modernising it and returning it to its former glory - not expanding it. I think it will continue to inspire many from the Brnadywell and I hope with further investment it can begin to serve the community even more than it its currently doing. As for the needs of the local people its not a binary question - stadium expansion or more housing, or better public facilities. No reason why the Brandywell community can't have both?