No. Where you enter in Europe is due to club annd country coefficient.Keyser Soze wrote: ↑Mon Oct 30, 2023 9:07 pm Is there any benefit of finishing in 2nd instead of 3rd when it comes to Euro football?
Do you enter at one later round or anything?
Sure, but which is the more dangerous scenario before the corner is taken - leaving one opponent in the box unmarked, or the cleared ball around the halfway line? Modern managers are looking more at stats and probabilities. Defend the immediate action in the box first; if a corner gets cleared to the halfway line, there is no immediate danger and the team has the chance to push up and prepare for the next cross. Leaving someone unmarked in the box has the greater likelihood of causing a problem. We can solve this by leaving two players up top, as we then have equal numbers for man-marking in the box and options further forward. Leaving one player up there doesn't help.fergal wrote: ↑Mon Oct 30, 2023 3:54 pm Leaving 1 up top during a corner gives the chance to compete for the ball if it's cleared out, as apposed the leaving the other team under no pressure in possession to play the ball back in and keep the defence under pressure. With every man in the box. The best they can hope for is the other team put it out for a goal kick. Otherwise it's coming back in the box
This. If you leave a player on the half way line they need 2 defenders there. This gives us the chance to break away instead of the opposing team automatically getting the ball back. Which other main team in the LoI don't have a player near the half way line when the other team has a corner- pats and rovers never have all their players in the 18 yard box.roger diesel wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2023 11:57 am How does that make sense?
If you leave one up around half way as the outlet option, the other team will always leave 2 back to mark him (plus their keeper).
So there will be max 8 up from the opposition for the corner, with 9 defenders plus a keeper.
So who is unmarked exactly?
roger diesel wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2023 11:57 am How does that make sense?
If you leave one up around half way as the outlet option, the other team will always leave 2 back to mark him (plus their keeper).
So there will be max 8 up from the opposition for the corner, with 9 defenders plus a keeper.
So who is unmarked exactly?
PauliAlonso wrote: It's even less than that. If we keep all our players in the box (ignoring the GK for now), we'll probably have a 10v6 (opponent will have two players on the halfway line, at least one of the edge of the box for second balls, and then the corner taker - leaving 6 in the box). From our 10 players, four will probably be zonal. This leaves 6 others to man-mark the opponents and try to block their runs. To take one of those City players out to stand on the halfway line for an unlikely counter attack, leaves one opponent unmarked. To even it up, we could leave two City players on the halfway, as the opponent will then keep a third player back (for a 3v2 on the halfway). But leaving one up top makes little sense. And if the priority is to defend the corner, then of course it's an option to keep all players back. Personally, I'm in favour of leaving two players on the halfway line but, again, it comes down to what the manager sees as likelihood of creating a good counter attack, versus not conceding a goal.
In fairness, it's fine margins. Everybody says we need a goalscorer and they're not far wrong. We've lost 7 games this year, 6 of them to nil. Were we to have scored one goal in even just three of those games (Drogs and 2x Sligo would be realistic), there's an extra three points. Of the games we drew, 5 were 0-0. Score just one goal in three of those (Drogs and 2x Shels would be realistic), add the three points from the draws and we're sitting two points ahead of Rovers going into tonight.
That's entirely contingent on four defenders probably being zonal.PauliAlonso wrote: ↑Fri Nov 03, 2023 9:37 amroger diesel wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2023 11:57 am How does that make sense?
If you leave one up around half way as the outlet option, the other team will always leave 2 back to mark him (plus their keeper).
So there will be max 8 up from the opposition for the corner, with 9 defenders plus a keeper.
So who is unmarked exactly?PauliAlonso wrote: It's even less than that. If we keep all our players in the box (ignoring the GK for now), we'll probably have a 10v6 (opponent will have two players on the halfway line, at least one of the edge of the box for second balls, and then the corner taker - leaving 6 in the box). From our 10 players, four will probably be zonal. This leaves 6 others to man-mark the opponents and try to block their runs. To take one of those City players out to stand on the halfway line for an unlikely counter attack, leaves one opponent unmarked. To even it up, we could leave two City players on the halfway, as the opponent will then keep a third player back (for a 3v2 on the halfway). But leaving one up top makes little sense. And if the priority is to defend the corner, then of course it's an option to keep all players back. Personally, I'm in favour of leaving two players on the halfway line but, again, it comes down to what the manager sees as likelihood of creating a good counter attack, versus not conceding a goal.
Yes, it's theory. It's how many teams do it though. There are still different variations to consider; the opponent on the edge of the box also is usually marked, in case of runs into the box or offering the short option. Point is, you can generally defend the corner better and cover most bases by keeping all players back, or by leaving two up top. By leaving only one up, there are more possibilities for the opponent. RH clearly wants all players back and is sacrificing the chance of an unlikely counter in order to do it.rodgers wrote: ↑Fri Nov 03, 2023 7:11 pmThat's entirely contingent on four defenders probably being zonal.PauliAlonso wrote: ↑Fri Nov 03, 2023 9:37 amroger diesel wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2023 11:57 am How does that make sense?
If you leave one up around half way as the outlet option, the other team will always leave 2 back to mark him (plus their keeper).
So there will be max 8 up from the opposition for the corner, with 9 defenders plus a keeper.
So who is unmarked exactly?PauliAlonso wrote: It's even less than that. If we keep all our players in the box (ignoring the GK for now), we'll probably have a 10v6 (opponent will have two players on the halfway line, at least one of the edge of the box for second balls, and then the corner taker - leaving 6 in the box). From our 10 players, four will probably be zonal. This leaves 6 others to man-mark the opponents and try to block their runs. To take one of those City players out to stand on the halfway line for an unlikely counter attack, leaves one opponent unmarked. To even it up, we could leave two City players on the halfway, as the opponent will then keep a third player back (for a 3v2 on the halfway). But leaving one up top makes little sense. And if the priority is to defend the corner, then of course it's an option to keep all players back. Personally, I'm in favour of leaving two players on the halfway line but, again, it comes down to what the manager sees as likelihood of creating a good counter attack, versus not conceding a goal.
Seriously, not sure you've read the topic title properly.
It’s my understanding that in the event of a bye being awarded to our league we will be first in the queue. No idea how or why bye’s are allocated but Irish clubs have benefited from them in the past.Keyser Soze wrote: ↑Mon Oct 30, 2023 9:07 pm Is there any benefit of finishing in 2nd instead of 3rd when it comes to Euro football?
Do you enter at one later round or anything?
