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If the council had a thought, they could have applied for a big RHI boiler, heated the whole of the bogside, even supplied a ruse to heat the showers in the changing rooms while getting a subsidy for 20 years to fund the brandywell, but that would have hurt their heads!

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Kenny did great transfer business last summer and we must give him time to repeat the trick.

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forza wrote:Kenny did great transfer business last summer and we must give him time to repeat the trick.
That post confused me cause kenny shiels transfer dealings have nothing what so ever to do with the brandywell redevelopment

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I'd imagine alot confuses you. And our budget has been affected by our reduced ticket sales this year.

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forza wrote:I'd imagine alot confuses you. And our budget has been affected by our reduced ticket sales this year.
Whats that got to do with the brandywell redevelopment but ?

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This topic was started by a post from davy_g and has been the most topical receiving so far 1004 replies, not counting this one, and 31469 views.

There is another election zooming into focus with those holding the purse strings begging for votes to see them back in the door. This time there will be less MLAs and the opportunity has now arisen to get the prospective candidates to listen and take note that things have changed in that we don't want the same claptrap slipping through the letter box or if you get the rare door encounter with the celebrity canvassing to press home that no short change on the brandywell will be accepted. If brexit, Leicester and Trump can make it then we can do damage here at the ballot box as well.

Press home our own agenda not theirs.

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johnm wrote:This topic was started by a post from davy_g and has been the most topical receiving so far 1004 replies, not counting this one, and 31469 views.
Thank You johnm. I'm quite proud of that lol.

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Interesting to see that Dundalk are ripping up their artifical pitch and going for a hybrid surface. They would have gone for pure grass, but there is a lot of use from others in the community.
Wish we could stick with grass...failing that, what's the 2nd hand market like for slightly used pitches?

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Conor wrote:Interesting to see that Dundalk are ripping up their artifical pitch and going for a hybrid surface. They would have gone for pure grass, but there is a lot of use from others in the community.
Wish we could stick with grass...failing that, what's the 2nd hand market like for slightly used pitches?
http://www.limontasport.com/en-gb/produ ... urf/max-s/

Looks an amazing surface that dundalk are installing none of those horrible black rubber pellets on that pitch, serious price but £300,000 dundalks is costing. They are planning to install a real grass pitch back in oriel in a few years time and move the hybrid to a training ground.

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I don't know if people have seen the below already, but compare the vision and ambition being shown by City of Derry Rugby Club with regards sporting facilities with that which has been shown over the last decade by Derry City. Like night and day.
"Donegal GAA support for £6m cross-border project

PLANS to develop an ambitious £6 million cross border sports complex development with EU peace funds in Derry will be formally lodged on Wednesday it has emerged.

The Donegal County GAA Board is one of the sporting groups behind the proposed North West Centre for Sport and Well-Being which is being spearheaded by City of Derry Rugby Club.

The project would see the club’s 32 acre ground at Judges Road being transformed into a state-of-the-art regional sports centre.

The new complex would include three outdoor pitches, including a 4g synthetic pitch and two grass pitches, an indoor arena, gym and cafe. An application for funding has already been made as part of the Peace IV Capital Shared Spaces Programme and, if successful, work could commence before the end of the year.

Details of the plans were outlined by club chairman Tom Frawley ahead of City of Derry’s All Ireland League Division 2B win at home to Barnhill on Saturday afternoon.

The senior footballers of Naomh Pádraig GAA Club in Muff already used the facilities at Judges Road
for training while there are regular under-age competitions between clubs in Inishowen and Derry city.
County Board Chairman, Sean Dunnion, has confirmed that Donegal GAA clubs are supporting the project.

“We see the facility as being suitable for gaelic games when it’s up and running. It’s adjacent to Donegal and may well even prove to be an ideal location for preparing our County team,” Mr Dunnion said. “We would see it as being very beneficial for our clubs in Inishowen, in particular, and those in east Donegal,” he added.

Mr Frawley said the new centre would secure the long term future of the Judges Road as ‘it was impossible to sustain the site on a single sport’. “We have recognised the need to change how the club operates in order to ensure its long term sustainability, including attracting and developing playing talent and generating income,” he said.

EU peace funds of more than £80m is being made available under the Peace 4 programme to projects in the border counties of the the Republic of Ireland as well as in Northern Ireland.and is aimed at shared spaces and services for young people.

While the UK is set to leave the EU, Chancellor Philip Hammond has guaranteed EU funding which is allocated before that date.

“We will formally lodge our plans under the Peace 4 programme on Wednesday and we would expect a response back by the end of March,” Mr Frawley said.
http://donegalnews.com/2017/01/donegal- ... r-project/

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shauna wrote:
Conor wrote:Interesting to see that Dundalk are ripping up their artifical pitch and going for a hybrid surface. They would have gone for pure grass, but there is a lot of use from others in the community.
Wish we could stick with grass...failing that, what's the 2nd hand market like for slightly used pitches?
http://www.limontasport.com/en-gb/produ ... urf/max-s/

Looks an amazing surface that dundalk are installing none of those horrible black rubber pellets on that pitch, serious price but £300,000 dundalks is costing. They are planning to install a real grass pitch back in oriel in a few years time and move the hybrid to a training ground.
There's nothing to stop Derry City Council and the football club to cost and negotiate for something like this. I'd say the cost of whatever 3g pitch they are looking at would be costly too or maybe they have already sourced the latest design? They have just been generic in their description with 3g.

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Lord Lucan wrote:
shauna wrote:
Conor wrote:Interesting to see that Dundalk are ripping up their artifical pitch and going for a hybrid surface. They would have gone for pure grass, but there is a lot of use from others in the community.
Wish we could stick with grass...failing that, what's the 2nd hand market like for slightly used pitches?
http://www.limontasport.com/en-gb/produ ... urf/max-s/

Looks an amazing surface that dundalk are installing none of those horrible black rubber pellets on that pitch, serious price but £300,000 dundalks is costing. They are planning to install a real grass pitch back in oriel in a few years time and move the hybrid to a training ground.
There's nothing to stop Derry City Council and the football club to cost and negotiate for something like this. I'd say the cost of whatever 3g pitch they are looking at would be costly too or maybe they have already sourced the latest design? They have just been generic in their description with 3g.
That's the point though. How long has DCFC been working on the stadium issue ? I make it about 15yrs (since the SOS campaign in 2002/3 ?). In all that time we've come up with two fairly limited proposals - one of which didn't get funded, and the other which is only part-funded so far (the one being built now).

This is what's frustrating. Derry City are a big club and a local institution. It's us who should be coming up with the visionary and ambitious plans for sports in the city, and seeking cross-border partners and EU funding to help make it happen. Instead we settle for a plastic pitch and one-third of a new stand.

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Exactly Steve. Everyone knows the GAA use Prunty Pitches, well advertised around Celtic Park and centres of excellence throughout the country. No doubt a deal struck for advertising etc. My only worry in the process is that if the pitch is part of the contractors responsibility it could be left to the cheapest option.

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stevebradley wrote:I don't know if people have seen the below already, but compare the vision and ambition being shown by City of Derry Rugby Club with regards sporting facilities with that which has been shown over the last decade by Derry City. Like night and day.
"Donegal GAA support for £6m cross-border project

PLANS to develop an ambitious £6 million cross border sports complex development with EU peace funds in Derry will be formally lodged on Wednesday it has emerged.

The Donegal County GAA Board is one of the sporting groups behind the proposed North West Centre for Sport and Well-Being which is being spearheaded by City of Derry Rugby Club.

The project would see the club’s 32 acre ground at Judges Road being transformed into a state-of-the-art regional sports centre.

The new complex would include three outdoor pitches, including a 4g synthetic pitch and two grass pitches, an indoor arena, gym and cafe. An application for funding has already been made as part of the Peace IV Capital Shared Spaces Programme and, if successful, work could commence before the end of the year.

Details of the plans were outlined by club chairman Tom Frawley ahead of City of Derry’s All Ireland League Division 2B win at home to Barnhill on Saturday afternoon.

The senior footballers of Naomh Pádraig GAA Club in Muff already used the facilities at Judges Road
for training while there are regular under-age competitions between clubs in Inishowen and Derry city.
County Board Chairman, Sean Dunnion, has confirmed that Donegal GAA clubs are supporting the project.

“We see the facility as being suitable for gaelic games when it’s up and running. It’s adjacent to Donegal and may well even prove to be an ideal location for preparing our County team,” Mr Dunnion said. “We would see it as being very beneficial for our clubs in Inishowen, in particular, and those in east Donegal,” he added.

Mr Frawley said the new centre would secure the long term future of the Judges Road as ‘it was impossible to sustain the site on a single sport’. “We have recognised the need to change how the club operates in order to ensure its long term sustainability, including attracting and developing playing talent and generating income,” he said.

EU peace funds of more than £80m is being made available under the Peace 4 programme to projects in the border counties of the the Republic of Ireland as well as in Northern Ireland.and is aimed at shared spaces and services for young people.

While the UK is set to leave the EU, Chancellor Philip Hammond has guaranteed EU funding which is allocated before that date.

“We will formally lodge our plans under the Peace 4 programme on Wednesday and we would expect a response back by the end of March,” Mr Frawley said.
http://donegalnews.com/2017/01/donegal- ... r-project/
How they can demonstrate a need for £6million of public money to be spent on this is beyond me. No need for it at all only a couple of miles from the newly built Foyle Arena. If the EU along with City of Derry want to throw money at it that's grand but not a penny should come from the council or Stormont.

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campsie wrote:
stevebradley wrote:I don't know if people have seen the below already, but compare the vision and ambition being shown by City of Derry Rugby Club with regards sporting facilities with that which has been shown over the last decade by Derry City. Like night and day.
"Donegal GAA support for £6m cross-border project

PLANS to develop an ambitious £6 million cross border sports complex development with EU peace funds in Derry will be formally lodged on Wednesday it has emerged.

The Donegal County GAA Board is one of the sporting groups behind the proposed North West Centre for Sport and Well-Being which is being spearheaded by City of Derry Rugby Club.

The project would see the club’s 32 acre ground at Judges Road being transformed into a state-of-the-art regional sports centre.

The new complex would include three outdoor pitches, including a 4g synthetic pitch and two grass pitches, an indoor arena, gym and cafe. An application for funding has already been made as part of the Peace IV Capital Shared Spaces Programme and, if successful, work could commence before the end of the year.

Details of the plans were outlined by club chairman Tom Frawley ahead of City of Derry’s All Ireland League Division 2B win at home to Barnhill on Saturday afternoon.

The senior footballers of Naomh Pádraig GAA Club in Muff already used the facilities at Judges Road
for training while there are regular under-age competitions between clubs in Inishowen and Derry city.
County Board Chairman, Sean Dunnion, has confirmed that Donegal GAA clubs are supporting the project.

“We see the facility as being suitable for gaelic games when it’s up and running. It’s adjacent to Donegal and may well even prove to be an ideal location for preparing our County team,” Mr Dunnion said. “We would see it as being very beneficial for our clubs in Inishowen, in particular, and those in east Donegal,” he added.

Mr Frawley said the new centre would secure the long term future of the Judges Road as ‘it was impossible to sustain the site on a single sport’. “We have recognised the need to change how the club operates in order to ensure its long term sustainability, including attracting and developing playing talent and generating income,” he said.

EU peace funds of more than £80m is being made available under the Peace 4 programme to projects in the border counties of the the Republic of Ireland as well as in Northern Ireland.and is aimed at shared spaces and services for young people.

While the UK is set to leave the EU, Chancellor Philip Hammond has guaranteed EU funding which is allocated before that date.

“We will formally lodge our plans under the Peace 4 programme on Wednesday and we would expect a response back by the end of March,” Mr Frawley said.
http://donegalnews.com/2017/01/donegal- ... r-project/
How they can demonstrate a need for £6million of public money to be spent on this is beyond me. No need for it at all only a couple of miles from the newly built Foyle Arena. If the EU along with City of Derry want to throw money at it that's grand but not a penny should come from the council or Stormont.
Agree 100% with you no need to be wasting public money on this nonsense, if city of derry rugby want to build it then let them fund it themselves.

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Mixing Rugby in Derry with GAA in Donegal would have the funders foaming at the mouth.

The Peace money is there to be spent, so fair play to them for working together and having the vision to go for it.

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Is it a ggg pitch or a grass pitch as I hear the showgrounds may now be preferred for ggg pitch?

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Apparently the players weren't told anything about the pitch...

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daniel wrote:Apparently the players weren't told anything about the pitch...
Why should they ?

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Greengo wrote:
daniel wrote:Apparently the players weren't told anything about the pitch...
Why should they ?
3G rather than grass could affect a players career. Normally workers should be consulted and opinions sought on anything that will affect their job. The Union representing the players (if there is one) surely should have been consulted.

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