Greengo wrote:Steve you come on here with a very pompous attitude at times... you very rarely discuss matters about how Derry play, tactics, results, players etc yet you have loads to say about ground development or rugby world cup bids...
There's a very simple answer on this Greengo. I see Derry play a handful of times a year at most. That's the life of an exile. So I'm in no position to comment on tactics etc for a team I don't get to see very often. If I did I'm sure you'd be the first to remind me that I don't get to see them enough to be able to judge
Greengo wrote: I for one couldnt give a shit about rugby or whether or not its played in the city or not or what revenue it will bring in etc...
Fair enough - that's your call. No-one's forcing it down your throat. But you seem to have a chip on your shoulder about it all, as shown by the fact you've just brought it up out of the blue.
Though as an aside. One of the unintended benefits of Ireland hosting the 2023 Rugby World Cup is that it would be another nail in the GAA's ridiculous ban on hosting 'foreign sports'. And a refurbished Celtic Park would be a great potential venue if Derry City were ever in Europe again and drew a team that the Brandywell couldn't or wasn't allowed to deal with. So there's a degree of self-interest in City fans wanting to see Celtic Park developed IMO. I believe it's only a matter of time before 'the ban' is dropped.
Greengo wrote:I'll try and break this down for you Steven...
Landlord = DC Council
Accomodation = Brandywell
Tennants = DCFC, D&D, Doggymen
The accomodation isnt up to scratch and has been deteriorating for years... the major tennant, i.e. DCFC, arent happy and want it fixed... the other two, taking the typical derry attitude of not complaining when something is wrong, sit in the background and say nothing hoping that the bigger tennant gets it sorted... the bigger tennant wants the other two to move into better accomodation so they can expand and better the accomodation but the two smaller ones cry foul even though they are getting new premises...
The landlord in the meantime sits on their hands and does nothing but drip feeds drivel in the press and looks at ways of improving other accomodation around the city because he is a GAA fan...
the major tennant has loads of visitors who feel at home in the accomodation and think that the landlord should help improve it as well... the major tennant cant move because he doesnt have the money so thinks that with grants etc the accomodation could be improved and that his visitors would also be happy... but he cant improve without the landlords say so...
the visitors feel aggrieved by this and challenge the landlord over the years... but there is a sting in the tale.... one of the visitors lives outside of the jurisdiction even though hes from there but likes to keep an eye on things from afar and online...
he thinks the landlord is a decent spud because he recently supported him and supports the idea that if the major tennant wants improvement then his rent should go up...
some of the other visitors feel aggrieved by this and tell him in so many ways but like the landlord he fails to listen and does so time and time again...
I know the above Greengo, and you know I do. So just so we're all clear on this :
1) I don't think the Council is a good spud. I think it's pretty poor as a council - even though it backed the Derry For 2023 campaign (and by all accounts has done a decent job at making the city's case to the IRFU etc since). My views aren't that easily bought I'm afraid. You're adding 1 and 1 together here and coming up with 2,023.
2) I haven't said the council should increase the rent on Derry City. What I did point out is that DCFC are not in a position to call the shots on the Brandywell. That's not just my opinion - it's the only sensible conclusion you can draw from what we've all seen happening over the last decade plus. What's the only way that would change ? God knows. But I flippantly said that if we wanted to have more of a say we might have to pay more rent. I don't want that to happen. I don't even know if it would make any difference. It was just a throw-away comment about how powerless we currently are and have been for years. I think you've read and interpreted what you wanted to see here, rather than what was said or intended. Apologies if what I wrote gave you the wrong impression.
It's clear that I'm not top of your Christmas card list Greengo, which is fair enough and not something either of us will lose any sleep over. We can still debate and even disagree on issues without having to hurl insults and swing handbags at each other.
